How to make these two types of notes?

• Oct 13, 2011 - 15:07

Hi! So, I'm new here... xD
I was just wondering if anybody knows how to do these kinds of notes
One: http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu228/go_chibis/noteonelol.jpg
Two: http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu228/go_chibis/notwtwo.jpg
I've been trying to figure out how to make these types of notes for a while now. Can you help? Thanks! :)


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In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

The first one is simply a 16th note followed by an 8th note followed by another 16th note. If you enter them in a measure as such they will not be "beamed" together (in other words they will be "un-beamed" notes with the common dangling flag) until you've entered at least two notes directly next to each other without a rest in-between. Try it. Click on a 16th note (one with two dangling flags - that's what I call them for simplicity) and place one in a measure. Then switch to an 8th note (a note with only one dangling flag). You will see the beam appear once you've entered the 2nd note.

The second example is 3 8th notes beamed together. You can also make "tuplets" this way, but it's more complicated.

If you have difficulty understanding this, just understand that quarter notes (crotchets) are never beamed, and neither are half notes and whole notes have no stem. Once you get to 8th notes and upwards (16th, 32nd, 64th) every note that is directly next to another is beamed to the next according to the beat - with the exception that they can be beamed beyond a quarter note beat. For example, since two 8th notes take up the same amount of time as one quarter note and you're in 4/4 time (the time signature at the start of a staff), then 8 8th notes together in the same measure will be beamed in 4s according to the beat of 4 quarter notes - so you will end up with 8 8th notes beamed together in 2 sets of 4., and groups of up to 8 16th notes will be beamed as such.

In the first example if you were to place yet another 16th note or even another 8th note directly after the last 16th note, it will become be grouped with the other 3 under the same beam since an 8th and two 16th notes make up a quarter note in duration.

I hope that helps. If you have any more questions, please ask.

Brandon

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Yes, in 2/4 time 8th notes are beamed in groups of 2 rather than in 4 as in 4/4 time. So the time signature is definitely a factor in how notes are grouped. But in the first example you posted they should still show up as pictured, since there's the equivalent of 2 8th notes in duration. In the second example the 3rd 8th note will (or should) be separate from the other two in the beam. So in 2/4 time you won't find 3 8th notes grouped together in the same beam unless they are a tuplet (in this case a triplet) - 3 8th notes with the duration of only 2. In that case they will have a bracket above them with the number 3 in the middle to indicate a triplet. If that's what you want to create there's a technique I use that works well, as I use a lot of triplets and other tuplets in my compositions. Just ask, I'm happy to give you some pointers. I'm not certain what you mean by "box," but I think I've answered your question. Yes?

I tested this in a 2/4 test score in MuseScore and it's correct.

In reply to by Bran92405

"out of the box" -> without any further manual change.
And that happened for the full example, i.e. also the 3 8th notes, not just the 8th-16th-8th set.

And I know how this works, it was the OP apparently having a problem with it, not me ;-)

EDIT: Changing to 4/4 or 3/4 doesn't make a difference, 5/4 and 6/4 does, as does x/8 and 2/2

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Ah. I'm speaking to the wrong person them. Excuse me. Even though English is my primary language I still have problems in certain areas. Probably an "aspie," so "out of the box" to me was something more literal than figurative - that's why I'm so verbose. Sorry, I was trying to help the OP and thought you were he/she.

As far as changing the time signature - I tested it, and although I've taken theory and notation classes in the past it was a very long time ago, so maybe I'm not up to speed. but it seems that it does make a difference between 4/4 and 2/4 time, which makes perfect sense rhythmically. I think that may be where the OP's difficulty lies. He/she's trying to beam 3 8th notes in 2/4 time? Now I'm even more confused. lol!!

It would be helpful if we could still scroll to the posts we're responding to while in the reply area. Then I'd be far less confused.

So - never mind. ;)

In reply to by [DELETED] 5

I'm guessing you don't know what those notes are, and that's why you can,t figure this out? I would start by finding a web site or book that teaches basic music reading skills. Once you know what those are, then the manual and tutorial videos will make more sense.

Anyhow, for the record, that's a sixteenth note, an eighth note, and a sixteenth note.

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