Unwanted guitar sustain
In the most recent updates of v4 my guitar sounds have changed. Every guitar sound, whether MS Basic or Gtr Vol 1, has now got long sustain making the parts awful to listen too. The ring-on continues for at least a bar for every note. No settings were changed but I now have the effect of aircraft hanger reverb. I have tried every visible toggle/setting to change the effect but it will not go away. Am I missing something please or is this a bug?
Gordon
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Do you have reverb turned off in the mixer?
In reply to Do you have reverb turned… by bobjp
Yep. This is a change in the fundamental properties of the sound. I need to run differentials by creating some new files to see if its a corruption of my existing files. Maybe the brand new files will be fine.
In reply to Yep. This is a change in the… by Gordon Francis
I've now created a new file with a simple guitar line. I have used the Electric LP - Clean sound font. The decay without any reverb is very long and continues after the next chord begins. When playing a real guitar without damping I would expect a chord to ring until the next chord is played when you would move your hand and cause the note to stop. The basic sound now seems to have a built-in amp head spring reverb which I can't switch off. Can anyone let me know if this is deliberate or a glitch please?
In reply to I've now created a new file… by Gordon Francis
I can't replicate this in 4.5.2.
Please identify your computer's operating system and version, and MuseScore's version. You can get all three simultaneously by clicking on Help / About MuseScore from the main menu. Then click the copy button (two pieces of paper) next to the "Revision" number. Paste that into your post.
Then describe in GREAT and EXCRUCIATING detail exactly what you do to create a guitar score, what you expect to happen at each step, and how the program responds instead of matching your expectations.
It's possible to include too much detail but you'd really have to work at it. It's very easy to include too little ... so include more :-)
Finally, attach a score file (.MSCZ) that demonstrates the issue. If you don't know How To attach a file, click the link.
In reply to I can't replicate this in 4… by TheHutch
OS: Windows 11 Version 2009 or later, Arch.: x86_64,
MuseScore Studio version (64-bit): 4.5.2-251141402,
revision: ac9d3bc
I used to be a professional arranger (long time Sibelius user) so I create my guitar parts from scratch, note by note. I sometimes copy between files for similar rhythms and copy repeated sections within files. At some point the original file/part/rhythm would have been written by me. I do not import by any method; XML, PDF, etc.
When the part was originally input it worked fine. I use the numeric keypad along with some ctrl+C/V cut and paste actions.
I understand the use of Audio effects, how to select them and toggle them on and off along with the use of master effect buses. I only ever use single channel effects in Musescore (reverb plus Audio FX)
I am unsure exactly when this happened but the file I have chosen as an example was working correctly on 14 Mar 25. It was created on 7 Feb 25. Muse Guitars downloaded 4 Dec 24 and used in this track.
All of my tracks using Gtr Vol 1 Electric LP Clean & Electric Bass sounds, no matter when they were created, have the same issue.
I haven't accessed this particular track until now so no changes were made after 14 Mar 25. It has now inherited the issue.
I have attached the .mscz version along with an MP3 produced in Audacity of a stop chord section from Bar 42. The 8 bar extracts run concurrently, the first using MSBASIC sounds (Clean guitar and Fingered Bass) and then the same section using Gtr VOL 1 (Electric LP Clean & Electric Bass). Just doing this simple differential points to an event that has affected the GTR VOL 1 sound files since 14 Mar 25. FYI the problem doesn't appear on the Mandolin sound from GTR VOL 2.
I would normally uninstall and do a complete clean install at this point but have not done in case you need any log files, etc from the current installation.
I have not experienced this issue with any other audio software on my PC. I don't have any latency issues either.
Please, let me know if you need anything else.
Tell me if you hear any reverb in this score.
In reply to Tell me if you hear any… by bobjp
Every note is played until the next note cancels it. No reverb on (greyed out). I've attached a Zipped mp3 which captures exactly what I experience in the program.
I get that there should be an inherent amount of sustain in trying to create a synthesized guitar sound as sometimes guitarists naturally hold a note/chord until the next note or hand position change however, the interpretation I'm getting ignores any written note lengths. I
In reply to Every note is played until… by Gordon Francis
Even with reverb turned all the way up, I can't reproduce this. I can tell when notes start an end, even though reverb continues the sound.
In reply to Thanks. Can you also post… by bobjp
It only happening on Gtr Vol 1 guitar & bass sounds and not on MSBASIC sounds. I think there's a problem somewhere, thanks for your help
Have you tried reinstalling Guitar Vol.1? I had the same issue and it worked for me.
In reply to Have you tried reinstalling… by humanmoth2007
Thanks, that was going to be my next step but was waiting for a response from others on this thread to see if they wanted to try to fix it a different way.
It would probably be useful for Musescore to work out how it happened; whether there was an issue with the original add-on install or if a subsequent Window OS update has corrupted it.
I haven't heard anything so I'll crack on and do a clean install of Studio and all add-ons and see where that takes me. Cheers