What is this and how do I notate it?
The attachment below in the red box shows a harp glissando from the bass clef to the treble clef, but the values seem off. Am I using the wrong clef, and for any harp players, how do I properly input this into the score?
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It is a glissando. The notes indicate the tuning of the individual strings. That tuning is controlled by the harp pedals. I have notated it by putting the scale in voice 2 and setting it to not play. If you add harp pedal settings to the score the notes in the gliss will follow those settings. The harp palette is not shown by default you will need to enable it.
See https://handbook.musescore.org/idiomatic-notation/harp and https://handbook.musescore.org/customization/palettes
In reply to It is a glissando. The… by SteveBlower
I do have the pedals figured out. It's the rhythmic values which are confusing me, as there are only seven 32nd notes in one gliss, and it would be way too fast taking it at its raw value.
In reply to I do have the pedals figured… by MuseScore Composer
The seven notes just indicate which notes are present in the scale that forms the gliss in all the octaves that are covered by the range of the gliss - that is it tells the player which notes to set the pedals to play; in effect, an alternative or additional indication to the pedal markings. They are similar to a cue and therefore should be set to not play in the properties panel. You can enter them as 7 sixteenth notes or as a 7-tuplet, it really doesn't matter.
In reply to The seven notes just… by SteveBlower
Yes, I understand now, thanks. I have just disabled playback for the seven notes and added a gliss instead. It seems to work well.
In reply to Yes, I understand now,… by MuseScore Composer
I should have added that pedal settings are necessary to have Musescore play the desired notes. The pedal setting can be made invisible, of course.
it is a glissando, i guess, WAIT IT SEEMS ITS A DIFFERENT GLISSANDO(im not a harpist btw so i don't now what type of glissando is that)
In reply to it is a glissando, i guess,… by bennathezequi
Might be a note-anchored line? To denote that single noted in treble clef to be played with the same hand as the (gliss? scale?) notes in bass clef??
In reply to it is a glissando, i guess,… by bennathezequi
The straight line from the G# to the high F is a normal, straight-line glissando. The double line from the beginning of the figure to the high F is a crescendo, set to be able to tilt at Properties / Hairpin / Style / Allow diagonal. I haven't figured out how to move the f farther away from the beginning of the crescendo.
I don't know what the stray quarter note is at the beginning of the crescendo. As a pure WAG, I will guess that it indicates that the scale and glissando should take up the time of a quarter note. I don't play harp either. Ask a harpist. If you don't know one, the faculty at the nearest college/university with a decent music program should be able to help. (I don't think there are any harpists here???)
In reply to The straight line from the G… by TheHutch
A glissando should show the test "gliss.". A straight gliss, portato, is not possible with a harp
In reply to A glissando should show the… by Jojo-Schmitz
Since I'm not a harpist, I don't know whether a glissando is supposed to be explicitly labeled or not. Certainly they often are not on other instruments. I simply made my example with the text removed: Properties / Glissando / Show text unchecked. If I'm right (and it's not unreasonable to guess that I could be) then the glissando is simply a big strum from low to high ... which sounds a lot more like a smooth glissando (a "portato"???) than most instruments can manage.
Thank you everyone for your help. I will just superimpose over the gliss with an invisible one. I don't think what I am trying to do is really compatible with the program.