Wind Quintet not Playing Horn on Playback
I cannot hear the highlighted part on playback! Perhaps Bach doesn't care for the way I switch the tune between the instruments?
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all those notes are outside the playable range for that instrument and therefore not available in the soundfont
Other than that: we can't hear images, so you'd need to share the real score
In reply to all those notes are outside… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jo-Jo - many thanks! I have inadvertently pasted the parts from BWV-558 (organ) an
octave above the playing range of the Horn in F. It says 'Horn in F' but I write at
pitch, yes? Except that I should not write 8va as I have here.
Re hearing images, I think that is a most wonderful description of what
Musescore does - that could even be its brand motto! It has
steadily improved and Marc is to be congratulated!
In reply to Jo-Jo - many thanks! I have… by MoverleySmith
However, the horn part still doesn't play... Maybe I just need to save the file and re-open it...?
In reply to However, the horn part still… by MoverleySmith
Or unmute it in the mixer or attach the .mscz file so we can examine it and see why it doesn't play.
In reply to Or unmute it in the mixer or… by mike320
Mike - thanks. Yes, I believe I have it muted in the mixer. Here is a screenshot of the mixer - and I have just discovered that you can drag it to reveal the fifth sound channel. Can you see anything muted here?
In reply to Mike - thanks. Yes, I… by MoverleySmith
Yes, that red round button with the "M" on it means "mute" and is active; click on it to disable it.
In reply to Yes, that red round button… by jeetee
Wow - je vous embrasse!
In reply to Wow - je vous embrasse! by MoverleySmith
Thanks!
In reply to The first thing I will do is… by MoverleySmith
The Horn part is playing, goes a bit high and is in red but is reproduced; the appearance is a bit greyed out. A strange question arises - am I composing for virtual instruments or real players?
In reply to The Horn part is playing,… by MoverleySmith
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input#coloring-of-notes-out-of…
If you hand the music to a person to play it, then it's best to heed the instrument's playable range when notating.
(Computers/synthesizers can 'make up' sounds. So not so important to them.)
In reply to https://musescore.org/en… by Jm6stringer
Well (sorry I do not know your first name!) that is the cruel paradox of our age: it has never been easier or more democratic to create music with online tools and get a really quite nice electronic rendition - which would certainly do for eg a website or even perhaps a TV commercial, perhaps with a bit of sound editing, I do not know. And it has never been harder to hire musicians because they are either playing for top bands or are presumably also at home also using MuseScore. As you know - a trumpeter live and a computer trumpet are as different as Ulan Bator and Coventry. But I think I know my pitches, although I may write less idiomatically than for humans as I use MuseScore. Nobody has ever clarified: do you write 'to' the program or to potential future humans 200 years from now who may find my scores if the paper has not corroded nor the software become undecodable... Maybe I am writing for Aliens. Did you see 'Arrival'? Maybe they should arrive to sweep up MuseScore projects no-one else is interested in, and take them back to their black hole. Creating world peace on the way - naturally!
In reply to Well (sorry I do not know… by MoverleySmith
No notation software is capable of producing a sound file that is good enough for TV. They aren't made for that.
It has always been hard to get live musicians, Most past composers where hired by patrons, were conductors, or professors, or had some kid of sponsor. That way they had musicians available. Not all, of course. I know composers who indeed hire musicians. It's not cheap. If you have any hopes of getting you music played, then you can't write 'to the program'. You must write what you know to be playable today. How would it be possible to write for future musicians? Otherwise, write whatever you want and don't worry about it.
In reply to No notation software is… by bobjp
That is maybe why I thought: aliens
In reply to No notation software is… by bobjp
Thanks
In reply to The Horn part is playing,… by MoverleySmith
I have some thoughts on this jpg.
Oboe part measure 3. The high C is certainly playable, but is that the sound you really want that high up? Consider switching with the flute in spots like that.
Grayed out horn notes are playable, but again tone is different in that range, and should be used sparingly. Consider down an octave or use a different instrument.
Bassoon measure one. This interval is playable but perhaps not very musical.
Transcribing from keyboard music is tough. What sounds good on the organ does not always translate well to individual instruments. Perhaps keep in mind the intent of the composer and not just the notes. Bach's instrumental writing is different from his keyboard writing.
In reply to I have some thoughts on this… by bobjp
Sure yes - the computer bassoon never complains! That is the whole point! I was looking at the overall texture, and with a computer alas, the flute sounds less feminine/delicate, contoured; and the oboe less pungent, biting, acerbic, masculine. They sound quite similar. The horn notes that Jo-Jo said were out of range (Britten?) sound better high at least on MuseScore. if you cared to criticize the flow of course I would be alert. I am not actually 'transcribing from the organ'. This piece is jolly well known to beginning organists. The real trouble is that it may not be by Bach. Well - the fugue is so good that it has to be. But if you look at the Short Eight as a whole, they cannot all be - and Krebs is not at all like this imexperience. The G minor fugue is really a great utterance; and transposing the alto* up two octaves in the LH at the last 4 bars is really un be liev able. (I would cross the tenors and altos here* literally the third voice may seem to be Tenor until crossed).
In reply to Sure yes - the computer… by MoverleySmith
Thanks yes, I am sure all that is true. Just now I am trying to write some music (or have Bach assist me) for a website intro. I would not confuse that with writing 'absolute' music. I have written over 100 songs, for example. It would take years to transcribe them to an electronic format and funds to hear them performed. You cannot begin to compare the two. I still remember vividly my one performance from 1975. As Louise says in Arrival: 'Memory is a strange thing. It's not what I thought it was. There are moments that define the story of your life.' That was how it should have been. Worthy of Shakespeare. But it ended up: 'there are moments that define the story beyond your life' - which led us into philosophical undergrowth and was a crude attempt to serve Ted Chiang's creaky time travel thesis which neither the film nor the story makes a convincing case for. These are the high standards of Muse - rather than Score. Muse is made by the Gods - but score by Man.
In reply to I have some thoughts on this… by bobjp
I took the oboe down! Thanks. But it sounds pretty much the same on MuseScore!
In reply to However, the horn part still… by MoverleySmith
Jo-Jo cf the Wikipedia article. Je crois que tu me mene sur le chemin du jardin - as we say in English! It is Muse Score not playing the 5th voice. Strange!