DELETING MUSESCORE 4
Multiple files that were created in musescore 3 have been, without my permission taken out of 3 and transferred to musescore 4, and some have been corrupted. This appears to be random. i am comfortable with musescore 3 and want to delete musescore 4 so this doesn't continue to happen.
Please advise.
Ira Cantor duo for violin and viola 7 2.mscz
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Nonsense, very surely notr without your permission, Mu4 wanrs about overwriting an existing score, you must have ignored that warning, which is consoidered givin permission.
That score stems from 3.6.2 (read: got last saved with that) and is corrupt:
Very certainly Mu4 didn't touch this
In reply to Nonsense, very surely notr… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you indeed very much for your reply, as my goal is simply to fix this if possible and prevent it from happening in the future. This has now occurred with about 5 pieces. The others were saved in musescore 4, and I was able to save them. This one however is not saved in musescore 4.
1) is there a way to rescue the score? For instance, can I save everything except M 8-10 in a new score, and then write in the notes manually for M8-10?
2) If I would be given a warning, where would I see it? I am very surprised, because since this has happened before leading to corrupt files, I would have been on the lookout for it?
3) Does your note imply that the last time this was saved in MS3 was 4/8? If so this isn't true as I have been working on this piece for the last week, and it was only yesterday that it appeared as a corrupt file.
4) How does a file get corrupted? Is it something that I am doing?
Thanks again for your help.
Ira Cantor
In reply to Thank you indeed very much… by isc@steinermed.com
Edit: it got last saved on 2nd July 2023, 21:57
Edit: tuplets and copy/paste are a good canditate
In reply to Nonsense, very surely notr… by Jojo-Schmitz
i have now come across the comment with multiple older files that I had not touched for months.
Cannot read file C:\Users\User\OneDrive\Desktop\Ira Music files\DUOS\Cello-violin duo 2.mscz:
This score was saved using a newer version of MuseScore.
Visit the MuseScore website to obtain the latest version.
this sure sounds to me that these files, without me being asked or given permission, are automatically being transferred to MS4 from MS3.
If I am not correct, please explain.
I can tell you that this is causing me a lot of work that I did not envision or ask for to get it back into a form of MS3 that I feel comfortable working with.
Ira Cantor
In reply to i have now come across the… by isc@steinermed.com
There is no such automatic conversion.
You (or someone having access to your OneDrive) must have opened it in Mu4 and saved it.
In reply to There is no such automatic… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm afraid that's easy to say - but it's just not true.
I do not use MS4
If this is happening - automatically as far as I can see- where can i possibly find that out and stop it?
In reply to I'm afraid that's easy to… by isc@steinermed.com
It isn't happening automatically. No way.
In reply to Nonsense, very surely notr… by Jojo-Schmitz
Following up on my comment that these are now appearing in MS4, though they were initially written inn MS3. When I click on ignore, = the page is blank. The only way I can seem to recover the data (score) in MS3 is if I export it to a different format XML, and then save it is MS3
In reply to Following up on my comment… by isc@steinermed.com
Yes, opening in Mu4, export to MusicXML, importing than in Mu3 and saving it is the support way back.
Extracting the mscx from the mscz with WinZip or the likes and opening that with Mu3 is another, unofficial, way
In reply to Yes, opening in Mu4, export… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm concerned that this is going to continue happening ad nauseum. The two recent files that I opened where this occurred were files that I had not looked at for months, and that when I looked in my file, did not originally show a MS4 icon, only a MS3. But when I opened them, it said they were saved in a later version (ie MS4)
Is there a way that I can prevent this.
Couuld I be the only person this has ever happened to???
In reply to I'm concerned that this is… by isc@steinermed.com
The icon they show is not relevant, not related to the MuseScore version they have been save with, but only to the MuseScore version that is registered to open it by default on double click.
That basically is the MuseScore version installed last.
You can have both Mu3 and Mu4 parallel but you should use different folders for your scores.
https://musescore.org/en/node/348139
In reply to You can have both Mu3 and… by Mr Fox
Dear Mr. Fox,
Thanks for your note.
I do not, by my actions, save anything in MS4, but it somehow migrates there.
I don't know how to prevent this, as I said in my previous scores, from happening to random scores.
Ira Cantor
In reply to Dear Mr. Fox, Thanks for… by isc@steinermed.com
There is no such thing as an automatic Mu4 migration of scores!
You just open them in Mu4 and save them, in Mu4, that's all there is too it.
Without that no Mu3 (or 2 or 1) score will ever become a Mu4 (or 3 or 2) score!
In reply to Dear Mr. Fox, Thanks for… by isc@steinermed.com
May it be that MSCZ files are associated with Mu4 because it was the last installation.
Then you should use "Open with" and select Mu3 "always".
In reply to May it be that MSCZ files… by Mr Fox
That indeed is the case. Still you'd need to save them to finally convert them, and, if and when overwriting the existing file, override the warning
In reply to Dear Mr. Fox, Thanks for… by isc@steinermed.com
You are using Windows. In your Documents folder, there are separate folders for MuseScore3 and MuseScore4, and also for older versions if you ever used them.
And in all of them there are subfolders, one of which is called "Scores". This is the default location for saving scores.
If you've opened a MuS 3 file in MuS 4 and just press "Save" in MuS 4, you will still be asked for a location where to save, but by default it is the folder from which you loaded the file. If you confirm the location and file name, you will be asked again that the file already exists and if you want to overwrite it. If you confirm this again, the MuS 3 score will be overwritten in MuS 4 format, even if it is still in the MuS 3 folder. Maybe this is your "automatic migration". You see: there is nothing automatic about it.
In comparison: For example, if you open an existing MuS 3 file with MuS 3, modify it and then press "Save", the modified file will replace the previous one without prompting.
When you open a MuS 3 file with MuS 4, first use "Save As" and navigate to the MuseScore4/Scores folder and save it there! Better yet, copy the files from MuseScore3/Scores to MuseScore4/Scores using Windows Explorer.
In reply to You can have both Mu3 and… by Mr Fox
All of what I've saved has been, as far as I know, saved in MS3. I haven't consciously saved anything ib MS4
In reply to All of what I've saved has… by isc@steinermed.com
Emphasis on consciously...
You sure have. Or someone having access to your scores.
Again: there's no automatic conversion happening in the background and without a user actively doing it.
In reply to Emphasis on consciously… by Jojo-Schmitz
Noone has access. That seems quite far fetched I'm afraid. And I had not even saved it in the cloud, but only on my computer, I'm almost commpletely sure.
In reply to Noone has access. That… by isc@steinermed.com
OneDrive is a cloud service. Just not MuseScore's own.
But indeed unless you actively granted someone else access it is only you.
In reply to Onedrive __ is__ a cloud… by Jojo-Schmitz
@isc@steinermed.com
It sounds to me as if your Windows OS is always associating the .mscz file suffix with MuseScore 4.
What happens if you double-click a MS3 score (.mscz file)? Which version of MuseScore opens the score?
I have both MS3 and MS4 on my computer, but I have set the file association to open .mscz files in MS3 by default.