transposing one octave- problem
I am new to this program, version 0.9.3 revision 1102, downloaded today [15 Jan 2008]. to Windows XP with all recent updates.
What I am trying to do is transcribe several bars of music in treble clef, transpose it down 1 octave, [and if appropriate then change to tenor or bass clef[.
My problem is with transpose. I tried selecting a bar [in 4 sharps] and transposing it down. First I followed the manual which says,
Ctrl+Down: Decrease the pitch of a note by one octave.
but it seems to only work for single notes. Or am I missing something.
I next selected the bar and transposed it down 12 semitones. And then undid it because it was had altered G natural to F double sharp.. When I undo it does not go back to the original, retains the new notation. [see below].
I create 4 copies of the problem bar
Treble clef, 4 sharps, 4/4 time; dotted crotchet chord[D,F[ [top of stave], followed by 5 quaver chords,, [E G natural], [D,F]; [E G natural], [D,F]; [C,E]
I next took the 2nd copy and transposed down 12 semitones- result .
Treble clef, 4 sharps, chord, dotted crotchet chord[D,F[ [bottom of stave], followed by 5 quaver chords,, [E F double sharp], [D,Fsharp]; [ [E F double sharp], [D,Fsharp];; [C,E] [I.e the correct notes [on a piano] but changed notation. When I pressed “undo” I got
Treble clef, 4 sharps, chord, dotted crotchet chord[D,F[ [top of stave], followed by 5 quaver chords,, [E F double sharp], [D,Fsharp]; [ [E F double sharp], [D,Fsharp];; [C,E] [I.e the correct notes [on a piano] but changed notation. IN ALL 4 copies!
Pressing undo again and only the 4th copy of the 4 reverted to the initial notation, but with the natural sign in front of G removed.. The other 3 were still altered to show G natural as F double sharp.
I tried to move the f double sharp to G, but in dragging it to just above the stave it moved a bit further and became A [natural] but inserted a new flat sign on the F Sharp line [no note there] .
At this point I gave up!
Comments
Use the dedicated transpose option.
First select the region you what to transpose. If this is the whole score go to Edit > Select All. Then from the Notes menu choose Transpose.... and type "-12" semitones to lower it an octave. Click OK to apply the transposition.
Sometimes the dedicated transpose option still makes mistakes with the note spelling but I think it should do fine with octave transposition.
Thankyou for your reply. However, I think I did not make myself clear. What I was trying to explain was that transposing down an octave using -12 as you suggest, while it usually works, led to wrong results in the example I gave. In general it works well, but when it goes wrong, as in that case, it has clearly changed the key [hence the insertion of a flat in a 4 sharps and an F double sharp instead of G natural] but I am not sure what key it thinks it has changed to.. The real problem then is that the error seems irreversible, since pressing undo does not return to the state before the transposition.
Bug confirmed (r. 1439, Windows XP).
I was experiencing the same problem with notating a C-flat below the staff.
Symptoms:
a. I notate a C below the staff.
b. I add a flat via the Accidental palette
c. MuseScore generates a C-flat up an octave.
d. I depress ctrl+down arrow
e. MuseScore generates a B-natural below the staff.
Work around:
a. I notate a B-natural below the staff.
b. I depress ctrl+down arrow to move the B-natural several ledger lines below the staff.
c. I depress the up arrow to change the B-natural to a C.
d. I add a flat via the accidental palette
e. Presto! MuseScore generates a C-flat up an octave - exactly where I wanted it.