Baroque Instruments Soundfont
Ok. Let's just say that I made a Soundfont called "Baroque Instruments" and everyone wants to try it because they need a Soundfont for the early instruments in MuseScore.
Well, Here's the link to get it on Google Drive Here: https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B2I_8bgGH-Q3RWlPc3gyZExa…
If you have any questions about this Soundfont, you can ask me anytime and I will reply to you.
Enjoy this Soundfont.
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Thank you for doing this Arianna
Thank for sharing! Can you mention where you found the samples? Are they all public domain or under a free licence? What about your soundfont, can one use it to render audio freely, can one take some samples and integrate them in her own soundfont? It's important that you mention all this right now, because in 10 years someone might want to use your soundfont and he won't be able to do so. It happens a lot with sf2 we can find online but can't use to improve the MuseScore soundfont since we don't know if we have the rights to do so.
If you do own the samples and the soundfont, I would propose to make it MIT licenced, like FluidR3. If you don't that's fine, just put it in your README so that next generations know what to do :)
In reply to Thank for sharing! Can you by [DELETED] 5
Ok Iasocnic, Sorry for the delay in a lot of months, but I actually own the Violin and Viola da gamba samples I recorded, The Recorder-sound samples are for the Baroque Flute preset and these samples were from the Yamaha SoundFont GM Bank, The Solo Trumpet, French Horn, and Contrabassoon samples are from SSO, the Violone sound was actually from FluidR3 itself, The harpsichord and organ samples are from the Soni Musicae site, and the rest of the instrument samples are from GeneralUser. I forgot to mention that the Baroque Instruments SoundFont I created is actually a Free Creative Commons Zero License SoundFont that everyone can use.
It appears to require a Google account to download ...
Thanks for this Ariana,
Is there any chance of adding oboe, oboe d'amore and oboe da caccia to the woodwinds?
I've been looking for the latter for ages.
And what about a violoncello piccolo?
Another very difficult one to find.
I'm trying to render a number of Bach cantatas for accompaniment.
Kind regards,
John.
In reply to Thanks for this Ariana, Is by SysExJohn
The oboes are in already
Edit: Ah, they are in the instruments list, not neccessarily in the soundfont
In reply to The oboes are in by Jojo-Schmitz
Oh!
Thanks for that, Jojo.
Is that just the baroque oboes, but not the d'amore or da caccia, or are all three already there?
I must admit I just looked at the diagram on the Google download page, which had no mention of oboes. I must try loading it into VST SynthFont.
Dear old Jo Seb B. sometimes used pairs of various oboes in a single aria.
I'm currently working ahead of time to do parts of the Christmas Oratorio.
Regards,
John.
In reply to Oh! Thanks for that, Jojo. Is by SysExJohn
In the Instruments dialog of MuseScore you have them all, just enter Oboe in the search field at the bottom of the dialog.
Piccolo Oboe, Oboe, Baroque Obore, Oboe d'Amour, Oboe da Caccia and Bartiton Oboe, by Default they use the Sounds Oboe, Oboe, English Horn, Oboe, Bariton Sax and Oboe, respectively
In reply to Thanks for this Ariana, Is by SysExJohn
SysExjohn. Can you please post the attachment Bach's Cantatas with the audio file of my "Baroque Instruments" soundfont so I can figure out what's the problem?
I could provide baroque oboe samples when I get my hands on them if you want :]
Edit: get my hands on my Baroque oboe
In reply to I could provide baroque oboe by KeldeoJustified
cool!
Thanks very much for the interest in my search for Baroque instruments.
I have a passable baroque oboe and oboe d'amore from the Garritan GPO4 library, the sound I am really searching for is an oboe da caccia. It is SO distinctly different from the sound of the cor Anglais that I would very much like to use it. One can hear it in a few 'HIP' recordings.
I'm not looking for a simulation, (the cor Anglais covers the same range) but the sound of the bell shaped metal mouth, as opposed to the open ball shape. I don't think the curved bodyy will make that much difference.
The other ones are the violoncello piccolo. Very distinctly different to the cello.
Lastly the authentic sounds of the viola d'amore and the viola da gamba. I suspect the latter is more likely to be available than the former with it's "sympathetic strings".
Not much to ask for, eh? ;-) ;-) ;-)
I've searched in vain for a couple of years.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Kind regards,
John.
In reply to Thanks very much for the by SysExJohn
ah the da caccia. If my baroque teacher has one, I might ask him to provide some samples :]
That would be outstandingly wonderful!
I went to a concert in Northampton (UK) recently , near where I live.
They performed the B minor mass using authentic instruments from the time, the stringswere strung with gut, they used baroque bows to play them with, and old trumpets and oboes etc. plus a harpsichord. All tuned to a lower A and a non ET tuning.
Everyone I spoke to commented how different and more tuneful it all sounded.
For me it was only marginally short of sheer ecstasy!
I wish I'd known what temperament they were using.
Probably Werkmeister, or some such.
I'd love to be able to recreate something of that sound.
A self confessed Bachophile.
Regards,
John.
P.S. I've done the pilgrimage to Weimar and Leipzig, etc.
In reply to That would be outstandingly by SysExJohn
If the sounds were tuned to 415, would it be fine?
Well, A=415 Hz is fine for me. How about others though?
However, what I might do is to transfer them to SFZ format so that they can play within the ARIA sample player. In that case they would be better at 440 because ARIA can part implement the Scala temperament files. It's restricted to 12 tones per octave though.
So maybe have them at standard modern tuning A=440 and E.T. then people wanting to implement obscure quarter or sixth comma temperaments start from a known base point? I like to use the Lehman-Bach temperament, it sounds so sweet to my ear. Others, no doubt, differ.
Do you sample each note?
At different dynamic levels?
What about loop points, etc?
Thanks so much for asking. :-)
Kind regards,
John.
In reply to Well, A=415 Hz is fine for by SysExJohn
It would be a mistake to tune the soundfont to 415Hz.
It would then be incompatible with all soundfonts tuned to 440Hz.
415Hz is not authentic anyway. International standard pitch wasn't established until the 19th century, and in the 17th/18th century many local pitch standards existed.
The way forward would be to tune the soundfont to 415 and then use the soundfont player's ability to tune down to 415. That way you are not going to get two soundfonts clashing with each other.
In reply to It would be a mistake to tune by ChurchOrganist
Darn...
All baroque instruments we play here in Hong Kong are in 415Hz :[
In reply to Darn... All baroque by KeldeoJustified
Don't worry Keldeojustified. I will be making a 440Hz version of the soundfont soon.
In reply to Darn... All baroque by KeldeoJustified
So use MuseScore's ability to tune to 415 :)
You'll find it in the Synthesiser dialogue - strangely enough on the "Tuning" tab :)
EDIT
Ah - maybe I misunderstood?
The problem you perceive is that any samples you provide are at 415Hz?
That will not be a problem. It is a simple enough job to pitchshift the samples up to 440Hz, and as it is upwards and only (around) a semitone it should not have adverse effects on the sound quality.
In reply to It would be a mistake to tune by ChurchOrganist
Hmmm - I meant tune the soundfont to standard 440Hz and then use the player to tune down to 415Hz
In reply to Hmmm - I meant tune the by ChurchOrganist
The problem is, the instrument is in 415, and can't be tuned to 440 unless we buy another instrument :[
Could you tune it up to 440?
In reply to The problem is, the by KeldeoJustified
https://musescore.org/en/node/116726 ?
In reply to The problem is, the by KeldeoJustified
See my final comment in the post above.....
Pitchshifting the samples up to 440Hz would not be a problem as a) the direction is upward and b) the amount is only a semitone or so.
If there are problems I will be happy to do this using my DAW.
In reply to See my final comment in the by ChurchOrganist
You don't have too.
I made a 440Hz Version of my soundfont already.
Check it out here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2I_8bgGH-Q3Y2JMOWJlaEpTZGs
In reply to You don't have too. I made a by Arianna2001
Thanks for this. It would probably be a good idea to update your original post and add this link to it so people don't have to rummage around in the comments like an explorer without a map, if that's possible.
In reply to You don't have too. I made a by Arianna2001
Is it available?
In reply to You don't have too. I made a by Arianna2001
The links don’t work anymore….
In reply to The links don’t work anymore… by xdranzer000
Which 7 years later isn't really surprising...
Let me just say that a little more balancing would be nice.
I tried it on my transcription of Benda Grave, and noticed the Piano was dominating.
In reply to Let me just say that a little by Elwin
You can use the mixer (F10) to lower the volume of the piano.
whoops, looks like it's already answered
thanks,
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All of the soundfonts are a half step below normal.
In reply to All of the soundfonts are a… by ♪𝔔𝔲𝔞𝔳𝔢𝔯 ℭ𝔯𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯♪
A = 415mhz in the baroque era is considered normal tuning by many compared to A = 440 today.
In reply to A = 415mhz in the baroque… by mike320
Okay then. I guess since I am using a modern and baroque orchestra together I will have to work around that.
In reply to Okay then. I guess since I… by ♪𝔔𝔲𝔞𝔳𝔢𝔯 ℭ𝔯𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯♪
You can download Polyphone for free and edit the pitch. Just select a preset and raise it a semitone. It's a lot more convenient to just use the synthesizer to adjust pitch, seeing that all Baroque music wasn't played at 415 HZ.
Your Google Drive must be clearly either broken or deleted. I can't access any of your SoundFont files. Dot Dropbox either. You might want to attach the folders to the post directly. I posted a midi file of mines as an example
In reply to Your Google Drive must be… by TrikiNya
Also you deleted it
In reply to Also you deleted it by TrikiNya
She deleted it because she made an sfz. file that is better.
In reply to She deleted it because she… by ♪𝔔𝔲𝔞𝔳𝔢𝔯 ℭ𝔯𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯♪
Is this soundfont file still available anywhere? All the links in the thread are dead
For some reason the link gives a 404 on google?
Does anyone have this soundfont? All links are dead.
In reply to Does anyone have this… by pmartins11
if my memory serves me well the soundfont in the thread/link below sounds much the same as Arianna's soundfont. a little messier in loops, volume and release, but you can fix that in Polyphone.
regards bottrop
https://musescore.org/en/node/258246
I'm trying to download it but it doesn't seem to wanna work
In reply to I'm trying to download it… by s1114182721
the download works fine, check your security settings
it is a safe download.
regards