Problem with the beams
Dear sirs! Excuse me my English! I had a problem, I don't know how to correct it. I couldn't deal with group of notes and after my some actions automatic association of the eighth a beam changed: a bar the 2/4, first and third the eighth - pauses if I connect the second and fourth the eighth by beam, notes of one height have a beam with a slope, and notes of different height unite a horizontal beam. (look two last mesures). Was on the contrary earlier! Once I tried to return the program to factory settings, still tried to delete the program and to install it repeatedly, but everything remained still incorrectly! (I work at Windows 7, MuseScore 1.3) Thank you very much! Best wishes! Vladimir!
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If you want to reset a beam's slope to MuseScore's default, select it and press CTRL+R for Reset.
If you want to alter a beam's slope to something specific, double-click on the beam and manipulate its handles with either the mouse or the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys. (And, if you don't like the result ... CTRL+R to Reset.)
I hope this helps, as I admit I am not certain what you're asking.
In reply to If you want to reset a beam's by [DELETED] 448831
Thanks to all answered to me. I applied PDF the file (as File attashments) in the first message, two last mesures are my problem! The program in the automatic mode connects notes with beam, but now for some reason, it is possible because of my mistake, at a rhythm as in two last mesures two notes of one height connect a beam with slope, and notes of different height a gorizontalyy beam! It wasn't earlier, I would like to correct. But I don't know how!
Click on the beam and press Ctrl+R.
Hello! Can you attach the score itself (using the File attachments facility just below where you type your post)? Probably you have set the beam properties for the "rest" to "middle of beam", but it's hard to be sure.
Thanks to all answered to me. I applied PDF the file (as File attashments) in the first message, two last mesures are my problem! The program in the automatic mode connects notes with beam, but now for some reason, it is possible because of my mistake, at a rhythm as in two last mesures two notes of one height connect a beam with slope, and notes of different height a gorizontalyy beam! It wasn't earlier, I would like to correct. But I don't know how!
In reply to Thanks to all answered to me. by alexvolin
In order to help further, we need the actual score (MSCZ), not just a picture of it (PDF).
In reply to In order to help further, we by Marc Sabatella
Here is a fragment of the correct and wrong connection of notes! Thank you!
Here is a fragment of the correct and wrong connection of notes! Thank you!
In reply to Here is a fragment of the by alexvolin
My understanding of the underlying issue or what needs to be corrected is no better than it was before, but the file looks distinctly different depending on whether it's opened in 1.3 or a Nightly of 2.0 Beta 1. In the latter instance, the beams are flattened - but a different problem altogether appears that I've never encountered before: the beams extend backward to the rests at the beginning of each of the 'bad' measures.
In reply to Here is a fragment of the by alexvolin
It's not really clear what you want - the measures you say are correct don't have rests. If you delete the firsat and third eighth note of the first measure, though, the remaining eighth notes are flaged rather than beamed, so I'm guessing that is what you want in measures 5-7 as well. And as I guessed earlier, it appears you have set the rests in measures 5-7 to be "middle of beam" using the Beam Properties palette. You need to change that to whatever you actually want. See Beam in the Handbook for more information on beaming. If you like the default beaming, then easiest would just be to delete the notes in those measures and reenter.
Thank you for you spend the time for the solution of my problem. Once again I will try to explain that occurred. I work for Windows 7, MuseScore 1.3. I got acquainted with this program recently and printed already some scores, then I undertook the score where the mesures have rests, I dealt with group, but without having finished with this score, began to make another! Having returned to the begun score, I faced a problem of group of notes, I started changing style settings. I don't know that I changed, but 8th notes in mesures with rests began to be entered incorrectly. I tried to return factory settings - didn't help! I removed the program and cleaned the regedit and all folders in which there can be program traces, but after new loading of the program the mistake remained on a place! I know how to edit the beams, but it takes a lot of time, and the main thing that before this failure of the notes with rests united automatically correctly! What do I want! I want to know there is an opportunity to correct this error! I want that the program in the automatic mode connected correctly 8th and 16th notes! Once again thanks to all responded!! Best wishes! Vladimir!
In reply to Thank you for you spend the by alexvolin
Again, the problem is not anything in your *program* settings - so no amount of reinstalling will change a thing. It's just that you have set *those specific rests* in *that specific score* to be "middle of beam" (you must have been experimenting with the Beam Properties palette). To set things back, you need to select *those specific rests* and set them to be "no beam" again, as they were by default. Or just delete the contents of those three measures and re-enter the notes.
Excuse me please! Such "experts" as me call in our country "teapot" - that who badly understands in equipment! But even I understand that there are 4 options for group of notes: 1. auto, 2. without group, 3. to begin group with this note, 4. this note in the middle of beam. Therefore experimenting with the Beam Properties palette gives nothing! Besides I many times tried to pick up any option! In total without changes! Therefore I addressed on a forum!! If you have no more ideas - thank you for patience! Best wishes! Vladimir!
In reply to Excuse me please! Such by alexvolin
Again, you need to select the rests then apply the "no beam" option (double clicking the picture of the eighth note with no beam). This will restore them to what they were originally. Or, as I said, just delete the notes and re-enter them.
Sorry, I know there is a language barrier here; perhaps there is someone else you can consult who can translate my instructions into your language for you?
In reply to Again, you need to select the by Marc Sabatella
Marc: interesting results happen when removing the beams over rests in both 1.3 and 2.0. See the following pics:
This is the OP's file, with beaming over rests...
![clp100.png]( "clp100.png")
Here it is with the beams removed. I could find no way to get the eighth note flags back without deleting the measure contents and re-entering.
![clp101.png]( "clp101.png")
However, this is a clean 1.3 file, beams added and removed. Notice only one flag isn't restored, unlike the OP's file.
Now for 2.0. This is the original beaming...
And this is the result of removing the beams...
So while 1.3 won't receive any fixes, issues still exist with breaking beams over rests, just different from 1.3.
In reply to Marc: interesting results by schepers
I'm not sure what you mean about "removing" beams. I had no trouble resetting the beams in the original file in 1.3 back to their normal default status:
1) open the file
2) ctrl click the rests in the affected measures
3) double click "no beam" icon in palette
Worked just fine for me. Same exact procedure also works fine in 2.0. If you are seeing something you believe to be a bug in 2.0, can you list step by step instructions to reproduce?
In reply to I'm not sure what you mean by Marc Sabatella
My bad! That's what happens when you click the "beam start" instead of the "no beam" icon.
However, is the result for v2 desired, beam starting from a rest?
In reply to My bad! That's what happens by schepers
If you ask for it by setting the beam property on the rest, then yes.
More and more time thanks to all who tries to help me! MuseScore is very simple and clear program! When I downloaded it for the first time the eighth (and 16) notes correctly connected in groups by beams with rests and without! Could you please to look my file attachments: MAIN PROBLEM is POSITION of the BEAM: DIRECT OR DIAGONAL - the first four mesures the program works correctly - if notes of one height, a beam - the horizontal line, if notes of different height, a beam with slope- compare 1 mesure with 5, and 2 with 6! You see that now (5-7) if a beam on a rest, notes of one height a beam with slope, and notes of different height - the horizontal line IT ISN'T CORRECT! Surprises me that removal and new installation of the program doesn't liquidate a mistake! I know how to edit beams, but it demands a lot of time. I want to correct an error that the program worked correctly in auto mode with rests or without! If you have no answer don't spend your precious time, please!!! Thank you very much! Best wishes! Vladimir!!
In reply to More and more time thanks to by alexvolin
Onvce again *there is no problem with MuseScore's settings* - the problem is either a bug in the program or with your score itself. Uninstalling and reinstalling the program doens't change your score, so of course uninstalling and reinstalling the program won't fix any bugs in the program nor will fix your score for you. You need to fix the score or else get a version of the program with the bug fixed.
Most of what you have described is not a bug - it's just the fact that you have set the beam properties on your rests, and this changes the beam angles. Actually, I'd say that while the beam angle is meausre 5 and measure 7 is "correct" enough, the one in measure 6 is just plain wrong. So the beam angle in measure 6 I would call a bug in 1.3. That bug is fixed in 2.0. But if you want to get your score to look right in 1.3, you can make that happen. Just double click the beam and adjust it however you like.