Enable Repeat Count for Final Double Bar
I dealt with this issue some time back, but now that I am a *little* less green, I feel confident to say that it is needed as a new feature.
In hymnals, when the final bar is reached, it is time to sing the next verse. Repeat marks are NOT used for the final bar in hymnals. This is not a case of an individual, flawed publication; pick up ANY hymnal of any denomination in your local church or library, and you can readily observe this for yourself. (I suppose that the reason for this convention is that all verses are considered optional.) Examples may also be found online at http://www.pdhymns.com or http://www.hymnary.org.
At any rate, it would be helpful if a repeat count could be added to the final bar such that the entire song could be repeated as many times as there are verses.
Thanks again for your time and consideration.
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I'm not sure what you are asking for here. Maybe I'm missing something but typically the accompanist knows how many verses to play via program/bulletin/hymnboard, etc. Or the hymn contains the lyrics and you can see how many there are.
EDIT: Are you using MuseScore to generate the accompaniment, and right now you have to manually restart playback for each verse needed?
In reply to I'm not sure what you are by schepers
What I am asking for is a way to instruct Musescore to repeat playback. As you correctly observed, the musicians know to go back and play the additional verses when they get to the end.
The simple way to get Musescore to repeat playback is to use a repeat bar at the end, go into measure properties, and specify the number of repeats in the "repeat count" box. However, ending with a repeat bar is not the proper formatting for a hymn.
So, my envisioned fix is to enable the "repeat count" property of measures that end with a final bar. This would allow Musescore to playback x verses while displaying the hymnal-appropriate final bar on the ending.
In reply to What I am asking for is a way by sbdunn
Are you familiar with DS (del segno) and DC (Da Capo) and codas?
In reply to Are you familiar with DS (del by xavierjazz
Yep, but without using a :|| repeat mark, this will get Musescore to go back to the beginning exactly once. If the hymn had two verses, then an invisible DC would get it done.
In reply to Yep, but without using a :|| by sbdunn
Do the required number of repeats with repeat barlines, and then for the last time use a coda.
In reply to Do the required number of by xavierjazz
I'm not sure how that resolves the original issue of getting Musescore to repeat while printing a standard ending double bar.
In reply to I'm not sure how that by sbdunn
I was too hasty.
I recently saw a post where it was suggested that one add the repeat barline, set it invisible and superimpose a different non-active bar line.
I am not sure how this was done but will try to find it.
A possibility:
Regards.
In reply to A possibility: by Jm6stringer
Great! There it is. This is the post I was looking for: https://musescore.org/en/node/107981
In reply to Great! There it is. This is by xavierjazz
Yes! That did it! Fantastic. Thank you, Xavier!
In reply to A possibility: by Jm6stringer
Thanks, Jm6stringer. Almost there, or I think so.
I can get it to show up as in your graphics, but the space between double bar and the invisible repeat is being counted as a rest, so it delays the start of the next verse. If I drag the final bar directly to the end of the measure, the repeat bar is getting replaced outright.
Any thoughts?
In reply to Thanks, Jm6stringer. Almost by sbdunn
Are you using the final barline (not the repeat barline) from the Symbols palette? Press Z to display the Master palette. There you will find a repeat barline in 'Symbols'.
Regards.
In reply to Thanks, Jm6stringer. Almost by sbdunn
Click on the last note.
(Menu) Edit ->Bar ->Split Measure.
Add the repeat to the very end of the piece.
Right-click on the final "measure" and set the Repeat count.
Change the single-bar that splits the measure to a double-end bar.
Move this end bar by adjusting its Horizontal offset in Inspector.
In reply to Click on the last by underquark
Hmmm...
Splitting the measure and moving the splitting barline leaves a gap where the barline was.
Also, for example, a half note on beat 3 will be notated as 2 tied quarter notes crossing the split measure gap.
Regards.