On last page (of 30!) and now stuck

• Mar 15, 2014 - 23:08

I am so close to finishing this score, but this measure has me stuck. It seems to me that it may be an irregular measure, because I can't figure out the timing (beats). It's 4/4 time and there is a half note chord (2 beats), a tuplet ( I assumed an eighth note equivalent) followed by an eighth note (so now total of 3 beats), another eighth rest, then what appear to be two triplets, equal to one quarter note each. So that's too many beats for a normal measure. Obviously, I am wrong here. Any help will be appreciated, as always.


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Top staff it's a a half note, and two tuplets. Bottom staff a quarter note, a 9 note tuplet counting for a eight, a eight note, a 8th rest and and two 8th note tuplets. The 9 notes tuplet it's moved up. But it's still too much :)

Perhaps the high octave B's played after the tuplet should be 16th's followed by a 16th rest (or an 8th with no rest).
Also, I think the split tuplet with the stems in different directions facilitates R.H. / L.H. fingering.

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In reply to by bill2reg

To move a note to another staff Ctrl + Shift + up/down arrow:

To split the tuplet, I created a second nonuplet in a different voice, played at the same time. That's how some stems/beams can be up, others down. If you toggle Display / Show Invisible, you will see the hidden rests.

Re: Church Organists's post below:
I did not notice the eighth note (crotchet) rest on beat #1 bass clef, but instead saw the measure as lasconic did, which is why I thought there was a typo with the high octave B's. My nonuplet as previously notated starts on beat #2. The correct timing is to start the tuplet on beat 1&. Regarding the bass note minim which Church Organist mentioned - I went to note properties and changed the note head to a quarter (crotchet) as per the original.

I hope you found the missing sections of your score and you are almost done!

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There are three voices at play here.

The first in the treble staff is a minim followed by 2 quaver triplets.

The second which crosses the from bass to treble has a quaver rest followed by a hemidemisemiquaver nonuplet then another quaver rest

The third in the bass has a crotchet held by the pedal followed by 2 triplets.

In fact the bass note held by the pedal should be a minim to fit the rest of the voices.

The instruction Molto allargando suggests that this should be played in free time anyway.

I think the 3-Voice hypothesis is correct. I think whoever originally scored it either didn't count everything or the publisher missed a bit. Since it's molto allargando, anyway, it's more of a cadenza than a strict-time measure. Just the tremolo to tackle a couple of measures later, then, and all the tricky bits are done?

My best effort required changing the measure to 9/8, adding a few extra notes (and hiding them) and cheating with the rests. Also, it will all fall to pot if you move any of it about.

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Changed the measure with the trill to 9/8 as per underquark...(not really good for playback)
...also found some better attachment points for the L.H. lines.

The horizontal frame at end can be adjusted, page breaks inserted, measures stretched - with decent results.
The 8va is actually 2 overlapping lines (for stretching, if necessary) because the 8va begins on a note that was actually brought up from the bass clef. I deleted the second '8va' text using line properties - it wanted to keep coming back, along with the hook from the first one!


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In reply to by Jm6stringer

Well I want to thank everyone for all the help. I did find the "missing" parts in some early files that were in my recycle bin, so that was a great help. Although I was able to get all the notes in for the whole score, I'm certain that there are flaws. Anyone who really knows music would find many discrepancies, but I do think that the song plays correctly. I tried as much as possible to make the score look exactly like the printed pages that I have. For instance, I put in accidentals for a second sharp or flat in one measure, where they really aren't needed, because Musescore would play the notes correctly anyway. They are really a courtesy to a musician, and I never intended for any of my scores to be printed, but only to be played in Musescore, and perhaps change instruments to hear how they sound. But by forcing myself to stay as true as possible (for my skill level at least!) to the original printed pages, I was able to learn a great deal about Musescore. With that and the help I received here, I am much more comfortable using this program. Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue" was quite a challenge, and even though there are flaws, I'm better for the experience. Thanks again to all!

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