Turn Implementation at the end of a (dotted) note

• May 31, 2021 - 10:20

In traditional Irish sheet music I came across the placement of a turn above the augmentation dot of a note (rather than the note itself). This appears to mean that the turn is played at the end of the duration of a dotted note rather than at the beginning. This is supported by:

https://www.mymusictheory.com/for-students/grade-6/193-c7a-ornaments

"Turns can be performed after the written note, or instead of it, depending on where they are written. A turn written directly above a note replaces that note. A turn written after the note should be performed after the note is sounded."

"The first example here is from a piano Sonata by Beethoven. The turn is written after the note, so we play the Bb first, then the turn."

how-to-write-a-turn-after-a-note.jpg

I may be mistaken but I can't see that this feature (placement of turn at the end of a dotted note [or, more generally, at the end of a note] rather than at the beginning) is implemented in Musecore? It is possible to tie notes and place the turn over the latter note but it is helpful to the learner (and posterity) if the implementation of ornamentation in Musescore could reflect traditional (old) sheet music as fas a possible.


Comments

There does seem to be two types of recognised "turn". One, where the turn is placed above the note, would play B as C-B-A-B; this is the implementation on Musescore. The second, where the turn is placed after the note, would play B as B-C-B-A-B; this does not appear to be implemented in Musescore.

Wikipedia on turns:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ornament_(music)&action=edit…

If I am incorrect and the second type of turn has been implemented I would be grateful if someone could point me in the right direction.

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