Cymbal Choking
There should be an option to choke cymbals so that they don't sustain during playback. Many times in drum set music, or with crash cymbals in concert or marching band, the cymbal is choked, so that it doesn't sustain. In playback mode, there is currently no way to stop the cymbal from ringing. A cymbal crash notated as a 64th note sounds the same as a cymbal crash notated as a whole note. The cymbal should ring for the duration of the note specified. If the cymbal crash is written as an eighth note, then the cymbal should ring for that exact time, and no more.
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I've been thinking this too.
It might be a little difficult to implement, though, what with MIDI and all(?)
In reply to I've been thinking this by JGitar
It can be done in MIDI - that's what the Note Off message is for.
The problem is that the SF2 soundfont format doesn't allow this behaviour.
SFZ does, but unfortunately Zerberus doesn't recognise the required opcode.
So - don't hold your breath :)
In reply to It can be done in MIDI - by ChurchOrganist
could you explain how to do this? (in playback)
thx
In reply to could you explain how to do by Anonymous
As explained above, you can't, currently.
In reply to It can be done in MIDI - by ChurchOrganist
Which opcodes would be needed in zerberus?
In reply to Which opcodes would be needed by [DELETED] 5
I've just been looking at the spec, and I reckon it could be done either with
trigger=legatoor using thesw_upopcode.But I will do some more research on that - I'll have a look at Plogue's forum to see if there's anything there.
In reply to I've just been looking at the by ChurchOrganist
Isn't it also possible by using groups? Or just not using loop=oneshoot? With keytrack=0
In reply to Isn't it also possible by by hpfmn
Well I'm assuming we want to play a choke sample on the Note Off.
Cymbals don't stop dead even when they're choked.
In reply to Well I'm assuming we want to by ChurchOrganist
that would be done via trigger=release, wouldn't it?
In reply to that would be done via by hpfmn
Yes indeed - I misread the spec.
Do we have
trigger=releaseyet?In reply to Yes indeed - I misread the by ChurchOrganist
Yes, trigger=release should work.
In reply to Yes, trigger=release should by [DELETED] 5
it should work in master/nightly build - not that anybody gets confused ;)
In reply to it should work in by hpfmn
Cool - that's what I meant :)
In reply to Yes, trigger=release should by [DELETED] 5
what do you mean by trigger=release?
Here is a different feature request for choked cymbal. This one is about the notation.
https://musescore.org/en/node/111171
In reply to Here is a different feature by AndreasKågedal
thx this helps
I Just now found a way to Make a choked cymbal sound with the MDL cymbals. If you put the "Staccatissimo above" from the articulations tab, you will get a sound thats close to a choke with some slight differences. the image shows what the articulation looks like.