Sf2 versus sf3
A few questions about fonts:
1. What's the difference between sf2 and sf3 soundfonts?
2. Why are there two formats?
3. What are the advantages/disadvantages of both?
4. What's the default font in MS 2.0.3?
5. Any other relevant info?
Comments
In sf3 the samples are compressed, resulting in much smaller files, so a much bigger (some 140MB before compression, some 12MB after) and better soundfont could be made part of MuseScore. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/soundfont.
Sf3 is an invention of Werner Schweer and AFAIK only available for/in MuseScore, whole sf2 is more commeon and in use by other programs too.
In reply to In sf3 the samples are by Jojo-Schmitz
Polyphone will read and write SF3 files, but I'm not sure they're using the latest commit as I have had artifacts in the sound after generating an SF3 with Polyphone.
Jojo has answered most of your queries I think.
If not let me know.
The default soundfont for MuseScore 2.0.3 is FluidR3Mono_GM version 2.305.
What other things might be relevant??
I'll tell you something, you can simpy change the extension on a soundfont file from sf2 to sf3 and use it in MuseScore alongside Fluid.
In reply to I'll tell you something, you by Roger v.d Velde
Ans what is the benefit of this? You can use multiple soundfonts of same or different types alongside without resorting to such trickery
In reply to Ans what is the benefit of by Jojo-Schmitz
It's hardly trickery. I couldn't get MuseScore 2 to recognise an sf2, only sf3. Put it down to my inexperience with the programme.
In any case as a 10 second solution it beats fooling about trying to do 'conversions'.
In reply to It's hardly trickery. I by Roger v.d Velde
There is no problem att all getting the MuseScore's Synthesizer to load (real!) SF2 files. Not here at least, MuseScore 2.0.3 on Windows 7. Just placing the sf2 soundfone in the directory specified in preferences, then opening the Synthesizer and hitting the add button and it shows as an available choice and can get added.
Changing the extension can even be dangarous, as it won't change the file's format, but may change how it gets loaded, and that could fail pretty miserably when the file is a different format than expected
In reply to There is no problem att all by Jojo-Schmitz
Try and calm down. I'm not using Windows I'm on Debian. When I put the sf2 files in the 'sound' folder within usr/share (which is where it goes) there is no recognition. I don't know why this is, but it's also not something I can put the time into to solving either.
Renaming the file, which is neither dangerous nor a failure, merely makes it usable, though as Marc already stated below, it does not confer the advantage of high compression.
edit - I should add that I just solved my sf2 loading problem!
In reply to Try and calm down. I'm not by Roger v.d Velde
No reason to calm down, I'm not upset :-)
Renaming a file so it predends to be a different format that it really is is dangarous, it just seems top work in your case, but that's more the except than the rule. Dangarous in the sense that the application opening the file might Crash on it, as it is expacting a different format
For Debian it is not different than for Window or Mac, just put the soundfont, as is, into the directory that your prefecences are configureg to look at, check https://musescore.org/en/handbook/soundfont#install, which caims that for Linux the default is ~/Documents/MuseScore2/Soundfonts for the user and /usr/share/sounds/sf2 for the system, all users.
In reply to Try and calm down. I'm not by Roger v.d Velde
Not to worry, we're all calm, just trying to help you debug your problem and also to avoid confusing other users. Glad you figured it out, though!
For the record, usr/share (or equivalent system folder for other OS's) is *not* the place you should be installing soundfonts into. They should be going into your *own* soundfonts folder - the default being right next to your Scores folder under your home or documents folder, as shown in Edit / Preferences. But while it is not a good idea for various reasons (having to do with install, uninstall, and update, as well as general system security issues), it *does* work to put the file in the system folder. Also, depending on how your particular filesystem handles caching etc, you might need to reload the dialog, or maybe even close and reopen MuseScore, before the file is seen.
In reply to Not to worry, we're all calm, by Marc Sabatella
MuseScore automatically placed the sound files into usr/share/mscore-2.0/sound. That's also where the fluid soundfont is auto installed as well as the other folder (demos, instruments, plugins...etc).
I didn't make that decision, the install did!
In reply to MuseScore automatically by Roger v.d Velde
Hmm, maybe the handbook needs to get amended then? Anyway the personal folder is different, still
In reply to MuseScore automatically by Roger v.d Velde
The default soundfont goes there, yes. But any soundfonts *you* download should go ton *your* soundfont folder. Same story for templates, styles, and plugins. MuseScore provides some that it installs into its own folders, but you should never mess with those. Your own files should always go onto your own folders, letting MuseScore manage it's own folders. This is true for pretty much all applications on pretty much all operating systems (no doubt with a few exceptions here or there).
In reply to Not to worry, we're all calm, by Marc Sabatella
I haven't had any luck getting any SF to work. I've discussed this in https://musescore.org/en/node/344765 but I haven't yet had a response. The last comment has my MS4 score attached. I would be honored if you'd take a look and see what I'm missing. See measure 10 on the Bottle Break staff. I know its a valid sf2 because I can play it in Polyphone.
In reply to I haven't had any luck… by Dougy Drumz
I responded there, sorry no one noticed your post before!
In reply to It's hardly trickery. I by Roger v.d Velde
Most likely there was something else going on - like you had the file in the wrong folder as well, or there was a typo or hidden character in the filename preventing it from being recognized. most likely you could change it back to sf3.
Anyhow, the point of sf3 is to save space; merely changing the name won't do that. So renaming obviously doesn't help with the actual purpose of sf3.
In reply to Most likely there was by Marc Sabatella
Maybe the file was SF2 in capitals and MuseScore expects it to be sf2 ?
In reply to Maybe the file was SF2 in by [DELETED] 5
Well possible on Linux and Mac with a case sensitive filesystem, and might explain why it isn't on Windows, where the filesystem is just case preserving, but not case sensitive
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Criei um soundfont ( sf2) no Polyphone, que funciona no Musescore 3. Como faço para transformas esse arquivo em sf3 que funcione no Musescore 4???? Tentei exportar pelo Polyphone mas não deu certo.
In reply to Criei um soundfont ( sf2) no… by julioduca
@julioduca
no need to convert.
please see SoundFonts.
In reply to Criei um soundfont ( sf2) no… by julioduca
sf2 soundfonts are supported directly. If a particular soundfont is not appearing the list after placing it in your SoundFonts folder and restarting MuseScore, or if isn't functioning correctly, then probably it has an error in it somewhere preventing it from working. If you start a new thread and give more information - preferably in English - we can understand assist better.
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