Moving notes from voice 1 to other voice
My problem is with notes that I have wrongly assigned to one voice, typically voice 1, and want moved to another, typically voice 3 or 4. I do know how to have the notes be assigned to voice 3 or 4, but this will generate rests (if I'm in 4/4, 1 per each /4) which are then counted as voice 1. Problem is that a) I already have actual notes in voice 1, and b) there seems to be no way to delete the rests as if they were the "main notes" despite other notes already being assigned to voice 1. I have been having this issue every single time I've moved notes from 1 to 3. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks for helping with this!
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See: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/voices
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/voices#exchange-voices
In reply to See: https://musescore.org… by Shoichi
Thanks. As I mentioned above, I did read the handbook and I did manage to move the voices from 1 to 3, but I still get the problem with the rests being generated in lieu of the moved notes, such that I obtain voice 1 having its own notes from before plus these rests, which cannot be deleted.
You can move voice 1 notes to any other voice, but voice 1 still needs to stay complete, so a rest shows in cases where there is no voice 1 note left to cover the gap.
In reply to You can move voice 1 notes… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks. Voice 1 already has its own notes, so the rests that are generated overlap with actual notes already existing in Voice 1.
In reply to Thanks. Voice 1 already has… by uranius
Won't happen. If there is a note in voice 1, there won't be a rest in voice 1 at the same place, this is just not possible
In reply to Won't happen. If there is a… by Jojo-Schmitz
This is unfortunately what does happen. I'm attaching a screenshot here (posted also in the main discussion).
In reply to This is unfortunately what… by uranius
Sure not. Either the notes are not voice 1, or the rests are not voice 1.
But can't prove this from a picture, score is needed here
"Am I doing something wrong?"
I would guess that you are :-). However, without seeing what you are doing it is difficult to know what it is that you are doing wrong. It would help if you would attach the score you are having difficulty with.
I also suggest that you read this https://musescore.org/en/handbook/voices.
You mention using voices 3 and 4. It is rare that more than two voices are needed and very rare that more than three are needed. I think you may be confusing "voices" - meaning independent rythmic lines within a single staff with "voices" - as in soprano, alto, tenor bass. This is explained better than I can in that handbook reference.
In reply to "Am I doing something wrong?… by SteveBlower
Thanks. I am writing a three-part fugue and using one "voice" for each "part", if that clarifies things.
Attaching a screenshot of one such instance. The rests overlapping with notes in the bass are the byproduct of those notes having been moved from 1 to 3. The actual 1 is the soprano line (A-rest-A) and correctly identified as such.
In reply to Attaching a screenshot of… by uranius
Each staff has 4 voices. Each staff needs voice 1 to be complete. The handbook page does explain that.
Do not use voice 3 in staff 2, if voice 1 is otherwise unused
This is a sample in the mscz format. Does this help at all?
In reply to This is a sample in the mscz… by uranius
This way
In reply to This way by Shoichi
Thanks! So basically I need to have two 1s, one per staff, right? Does this only apply to this format? In other words, is there a different layout wherein the bass line, normally written in the second (or fourth!) staff, would be 3 or 4?
In reply to Thanks! So basically I need… by uranius
For any score always use as few Voices as possible.
In reply to For any score always use as… by Shoichi
Thanks for the advice!
In reply to Thanks! So basically I need… by uranius
Every staff has up to 4 voices available. They should be used in numerical order as they are needed. Every staff should use voice 1. If there is second rhythmically independent theme in a stave, it should go in voice 2. If in addition to that there is a third rhythmically independent theme it goes in voice 3. If there is a fourth then the music is horrendously complicated but you would put that theme in voice 4. If you are using two staves for a three part fugue, you are probably going to need 2 voices at most in each stave and those would be voice 1 and voice 2. No need for 3 or 4.
In reply to Every staff has up to 4… by SteveBlower
Thanks for the clear explanation!
In reply to Thanks! So basically I need… by uranius
This is eaxactly what the handbook linked to above tells you.