Pitch changes when copy between trombone and trumpet
When I copy a measure (cut-paste) from the trombone part to the trumpet part the pitch changes.
When I put the score in concert pitch a C on the trombone part should be a C on the trumpet part, but it shows up as D.
I am using version 3.5.2 it worked fine under the previous version.
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What you describe concerns something so basic and fundamental to MuseScore that it's hard to believe without you posting a precise example of the difficulty you encounter.
Open this score:
Trumpet.trombone.mscz
and explain step-by-step what you do, what happens, and what you expect to happen instead.
Also, see:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/transposition#transposing-instruments
In reply to What you describe concerns… by Jm6stringer
It is extremely strange. It worked as I expect in the example. So I recreated the empty score (Jazz, bigband) and in the new file it works fine. In the old file it still copies with change of pitch. A well, I'll move everything over to the other file and write it tow to a programming glitch
In reply to It is extremely strange. It… by Johnny Verhoeven
If you want that glitch to have any hopes of ever getting fixed, then please share the score where it doesn't seem to work.
In reply to If you want that glitch to… by jeetee
I have attached the file : Copy the C in tombone to trumpet it will change to D (in concert pitch.
In reply to I have attached the file :… by Johnny Verhoeven
Are you SURE you have the concert pitch button pressed. It works for me just as I would expect. If I press the concert pitch button I see and hear a C. If I unpress the button I see a D and hear a C.
[Edit] No it doesn't work as expected. The Cs are behaving as I said but the key signatures are all screwed. Trombone is in C in concert pitch but Alto sax is in Eb!. - More investigation needed.
In reply to Are you SURE you have the… by SteveBlower
Yes, I did the same in the two files and the result is different. Maybe because I use the Dutch version ? anyway When I retried in a second file it works. I can film it and send it to you. Now if you can not reproduce and I no longer have the problem in an other file. It may be not worth the trouble.
In reply to Are you SURE you have the… by SteveBlower
Did you by any chance use local key signatures on each stave? If so, and assuming you really want everyone to play in the same key, you should just add the desired key signature as it would be in concert pitch to one instrument (it doesn't matter which) by clicking (not ctrl+clicking) on the appropriate key signature, it will be adjusted to the correctly transposed key signature when concert pitch is off. So if you want everyone to play in Eb add the 3xflat key signature to say the tenor sax part. If concert pitch is on you will see three flats in the TS part. If concert pitch is off you will see one flat etc.
In reply to Did you by any chance use… by SteveBlower
It definitely looks like you had concert pitch and written pitch almost backwards by having used local key signatures.
You can "fix" it by selecting the first measure on all instruments and applying the C key signature.
How did you add the key signature?
My guess is that you clicked on the first rest of a staff (only selecting that and no blue rectangle) and then clicked in the palette, which starting with 3.5 indeed seems to add a local time signature. Make sure to have a blue rectangle as your selection when adding the key signature.
In reply to It definitely looks like you… by jeetee
Not voluntary. That is I took no deliberate action to add a key signature.
In reply to It definitely looks like you… by jeetee
I hadn't realised that adding local key signatures had been made so easy. Surely this is an accident just waiting to happen. I am surprised we haven't seen more cases like this here.
In reply to I have attached the file :… by Johnny Verhoeven
You wrote:
Copy the C in tombone to trumpet it will change to D (in concert pitch.
Compare:
Bruidsmarch2.mscz