8va higher on repeat
Hello all,
is there a possibility to insert a "8va higher on repeat" in a repeat, so that the second time the part of piece will played an octave up?
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For your musicians yes, for playback no
In reply to For your musicians yes, for by Jojo-Schmitz
So that means I can change the text by line properties (without any effect of playback), right ;-)?
Thanks for response
In reply to So that means I can change by kuwitt
yep
I know this is an old comment, but if it was not possible 4 years ago I was just able to do it in 3.5.2. A repeat with two endings with standard voltas 1 and 2. I added another (rogue) volta 1 over the main section of the repeat. I then duplicated the front end measures of the repeat and added a volta 2 and and 8va alta. Only other "fix" was I needed to have the first measure after the begin repeat be an empty measure with a 1/64th rest and measure property set to 1/64th. (This is before the first rogue volta) This played back with the second repeat playing an octave higher. I did not add an 8va over the second normal ending but probably should have to it would have been higher as well. While this gimmick makes the playback work, it can't be done with standard scoring notation.
In reply to I know this is an old… by msokol
Could you post a score? Add notes if you are feeling generous.
In reply to Could you post a score? Add… by underquark
Will do...give me a little time. I did not save my test becase I tagged it onto the end of another score I was working on.
In reply to Will do...give me a little… by msokol
@msokol... No need to add notes! I have supplied them.
If you can do the 8va on the repeat on page 2 of this score:
8va_repeat.mscz
every ragtime player will be in your debt, as 8va on repeats is common.
In reply to @msokol... No need to add… by Jm6stringer
I see the 8va marked under the first ending with volta 1. What is the intended repeat pattern you are looking for. Not sure.
In reply to @msokol... No need to add… by Jm6stringer
Try this one. First pass is normal. Second pass is octave higher I believe. Normal exits from repeat .
In reply to Try this one. First pass is… by msokol
If you're copy-pasting everything anyway, why still have the repeat?
In reply to If you're copy-pasting… by jeetee
Exactly....
The written description of @msokol was too verbose to follow as compared to the actual example.
A few days ago, I had checked out those github repeat test files
https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/tree/3.x/mtest/libmscore/repeat
which were mentioned on a related volta/repeat thread; and I thought that a brand new use (or misuse) had been discovered here, in this thread.
(BTW: some truly convoluted test voltas are presented at github)
Anyway, regarding @msokol's attachment...
I do enjoy the playback effect of the 64th rest in the irregular measure #18.
It mimics a (not-so-quickly-executed) page turn... :-)
In reply to Could you post a score? Add… by underquark
This is a sample score. You can play around with the short empty measure at the beginning of the rest. Without it the repeat does not play properly as I recall. (see what happens if you remove it.) So this is just an imperceptible extra tiny beat in the score.
In reply to This is a sample score. You… by msokol
The only other issue that I have discovered is that if there are jumps and the repeats is played because of a D.C. or D.S, the measure count may not be as expected. How would a section be played under a jump with out repeats. Normally it doesn't matter because there is no octave change. But what would a pianist do if this situation arose? There could be unintended consequences of these additional voltas but they seem to work on simple repeats where they are not played again under jumps. I have even worked out a scenario where a repeat with multiple volta values required a playcount of 3. To keep the third repeat from sounding, there were no rogue voltas with the value of 3 so it played as if this pass was skipped even though the code tried to do a third playing of the repeat.