Looking for someone to translate simple scores into Musescore format

• Feb 8, 2017 - 16:39

Joe Witte - Sheet Music-1.pdf

I have just installed Musescore and have tried to recreate what I have on pdf into Musescore sheet music. I do not have a musical background and am relatively unfamiliar with the art, its terminology and structure. I read through instructions as it seemed to pertain to my needs, but am still unable to recreate what I have in pdf format. The three scores are relatively simple and short, but I am unable to negotiate the rules that govern measures and durations.

What I would like to ask is if there is anyone that could translate the three scores and describe how they did it. I would be willing to provide payment for this work (via PayPal) based on a quote for doing so if needed. This way, I would have the Musescore sheet music for the three scores and an understanding of how they were made so I could be better able to make my own in the future.

I have a single file that contains all three scores.

joewitte@comcast.net

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Joe Witte - Sheet Music-1.pdf 226.59 KB

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• Feb 8, 2017 - 17:05

What are you struggling with? Have you watched the tutorials and/or read the handbook (start at https://musescore.org/en/handbook/create-new-score)?
There's nothing really complicated about them, not for the 2 top ones at least and esp. the top left one is particularly simple. The bottom one needs some trickery, being unmetered and using voices, grace notes and (old style) triplets, but isn't rocket science either.
You won't learn anything, if you let someone else do it for you.

Attached the 1st line of the top left score, with all measures and repeats in place

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Allegro.mscz 12.12 KB

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• Feb 8, 2017 - 17:36

I struggled with getting all the notes in the same measure. I was able to complete the first score, but I wasn't able to do it by simple programming. I had to copy and paste notes from examples and even then, mess with the timing to keep them all in the same measure. I hit a brick wall on the right hand score and no matter what I tried, I couldn't keep all items inside the same measure as the pdf had.

Attachment M9 is the first score on the left. However, I had to really fudge putting that together. I was hoping someone could show the actual correct steps to do so.

Attachment C2 is my attempt at the right hand score, that proved to be too much for my understanding. I think I was able to use the second voice to get the overlaid note, but couldn't fit all the notes required in that measure.

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M9.mscz 27.74 KB
C2.mscz 12.37 KB

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• Feb 8, 2017 - 23:26

The only fudging evident in M9 has to do with text—other than that, it looks to me like you figured out everything you needed (including repeat barlines, line breaks, and beam directions), so nice work!

- For the tempo marking, try Add > Text > Tempo, replace the default metronome mark with "Allegro", and you can then use the Inspector to set whatever BPM you like.
- For the somewhat nonstandard use of segnos, see the Repeats & Jumps palette—drag the segno to measure 1, then drag the D.S. to the last measure, double-click it, and replace the text with the symbol the same way you presumably created the "fudged" version.

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• Feb 9, 2017 - 05:08

First, tons of thanks to Shoichi, Jojo-Schmitz, mkjnovak, and Isaac Weiss!

I have been able to incorporate the suggestions on the M9 score (BPM, Segno, and D.S.).

Using the start provided on C2, I was able to complete that score (now C4). I kept the two voices, but I think I see the value of the alternate suggestion.

As for the last score, the information I received on that one was very helpful as well. All-in-all, I am way over my head with the technical aspects of music, although, I have tried hard to comprehend it as I went. With the help of everyone, I made it through the first two scores, but the last one, was really tough and still, on this and others, I battle some key issues. Shoichi provided me the first half of the third score (Joe WitteTer.mscz). From there, I tried many times to accomplish the rest of it. I have gotten very close, but have some snags that I can't figure out. And yes, I have read the portions of the manual a number of times, but don't think I know what I am looking for and definitely don't know what I am doing.

I have attached all three scores. The third score (Hope-6b.mscz) has some notes in it where I struggled the most and were problems exist that I can't seem to resolve.

Hope-6b.mscz C4.mscz M9.mscz

Last question: Does Musescore have the ability to generate an audio file that can be played on my audio device (cell phone, stereo, etc.)? I received this music back in 1974 from an old friend and have never heard it played. That friend is long since gone and I took this route to be able to listen to it.

I know everyone is busy, so I truly appreciate your feedback and help!

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• Feb 9, 2017 - 07:17

That did it. I was able to go back and modify the music and get the results I needed. I also downloaded the lame_ecn.dll and converted them to MP3. Nice to be able to hear them after all these years. Sentimental memories of a dear friend!

My mom studied music and piano at Juilliard and NY State University and was a phenomenal piano player. I wish I had a fraction of her gift! Even at 89 before she passed, she couldn't remember our names, but could play Pathetique (with some errors).

Thanks everyone!!!

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• Feb 9, 2017 - 12:36

What was your final layout for the end where you lost sync?
I'm not sure what the original intention was, but I know what is causing it.
In treble you have 3 eighths while in bass you have 2 quarters (which equals 4 eighths).
Considering the only other instance of 3 beamed eighths was a triplet earlier, I thought these three could be a triplet as well, but then you would need a quarter rest above the quarter note.
If the eighths are played straight, you would still need an eighth rest after them.
I don't really know which was intended.

For the first measure mark, you can simply make it invisible by selecting it and pressing v.

For the extra rest you could play with right click / measure properties / actual duration
- which is how I assume you got the long measure in the first place.
...or you could just make it invisible, but that will still keep the eighth pause on playback.

Great work so far by the way.

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• Feb 9, 2017 - 17:16

Thanks for your comments...

When I made the last version, I think I had accomplished what you are talking about. I deleted the music up to the first triplet and added a quarter rest after triplet. This aligned my bass clef really well (except one note), but that really didn't bother me. I tried to remedy that too, but after a number of attempts, decided it wasn't enough of an issue to pursue further.

I like the 'invisible' feature. I modified the files to hide them (H5 attached), although I left View with showing invisible items.

This is my original score: Joe Witte - Sheet Music-1.pdf

The Allegro reproduction: M9.mscz
The Andante reproduction: C4.mscz
The Lento reproduction: H5.mscz

I would like someday to hear someone play the music on a piano and hear what it sounds like. It appears that there are some dissonant sounds in some of the music, but I am not savoy enough to know why and what to do about it.

I am impressed with the response to my post. I have never used a forum before and this was really amazing! Thanks everyone.

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C4.mscz 27.71 KB
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• Feb 9, 2017 - 17:54

No copyright!

I have tried to import the music all at once and by each score from the pdf that I have. However, the background and small characters must be to difficult for the converter to read and it returns 'unsuccessful' every time. You should be able to get it from one of the thread replies by me and again with this reply. Joe Witte - Sheet Music-1.pdf

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• Feb 9, 2017 - 19:20

Only the composer would know which dissonance is intentional.
However, IMO, the F# notes in the bass clef after the first occurance should be F natural instead.
There is a simultaneous F natural in the treble clef, and it makes it more harmonious.
I've included such changes in a sample file.
Behavior can be weird with no bar lines to reset things, so I'm afraid you may have to interpret a few moments in the piece. I cannot know if the composer was aware of the 'accidentals last for a measure or until changed by another accidental' rule.
Otherwise it all seems pretty good to me.

Take care,
Mike

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