J.S. Bach-Tocatta and Fugue in D minor BWV 565
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WOW, thanks for this masterpiece!
WOW, thanks for this masterpiece!
In reply to WOW, thanks for this by picapo
Good work, but i find some bugs in this work.
I'm practice it from the first half year and it doesn't have any secrets for me.
In reply to Bugs by juzekxx02
I always will certainly want to know of any bugs and eliminate them. In preparing a piece of this length and complexity, I would not be at all surprised that there may be some anomalies -- as a result either of my transcription process or in the edition I was using. I was working from the following:
Editor: Wilhelm Rust (1822–1892)
Publisher Info.: Bach-Gesellschaft Ausgabe, Band 15
Leipzig: Breitkopf & Härtel, 1867.
It is in the public domain and is available on http://imslp.org.
I would appreciate knowing of any problems. But I do not know of what you are referring to as “secrets.”
In reply to BWV 565 by Bill Watkins
I know postition and values of all notes.
Here you have your transcription without bugs.
In reply to BWV 565 by Bill Watkins
I listened to it the other night, and did notice some things that sounded wrong, but the most obvious was when the piece finished on a D major chord, when it should be D minor. There is a hidden # on the F in the final chord that should be a F natural. Why was this # placed, but hidden?
In reply to Some things by schepers
It is called a “tierce de Picardie “ (Picardy third), where the final cadence of a piece in a minor key ends on a major tonic triad. In this case, I simply couldn’t resist, although I tried to indicate that it was editorial and entirely optional.
Other examples include the last chord in the first movement of Bach's Concerto for Two Violins in D minor, the final chord of Bach's 'Little' Fugue in G minor for organ.
In reply to BWV 565 by Bill Watkins
I listened to it the other night, and did notice some things that sounded wrong, but the most obvious was when the piece finished on a D major chord, when it should be D minor. There is a hidden # on the F in the final chord that should be a F natural. Why was this # placed, but hidden?
Why is bar 25 bracketed?
I can't flip some things, such as upstem semiquavers in pedal stave (bar 29).
Using MuseScore 1.0 and 2.0 Nightly Build (4233) - Mac 10.4.11.
In reply to Why is bar 25 bracketed? I by chen lung
I am not sure what you mean by “bracketed.” If you are referring to the parentheses around measure number 25, that is a fairly common way to indicate that the measure is incomplete and is continued from the previous system.
I don’t see any notes in bar 29 that need to be flipped, but I have no idea why they cannot be. Perhaps MuseScore’s developers can explain.
In reply to Bar 25 "bracketed" by Bill Watkins
Thanks for explaining the parentheses.
They don't have to be flipped - it's something I chose at random.
In reply to Why is bar 25 bracketed? I by chen lung
Chen: I was perusing the forums and found this discussion: #2420: Flip stem doesn't work after editing the beam
If you select the beamed notes that won't flip and do a Ctrl-R to reset the beams, they will now flip. From the writeup in #2420, the flipping should work no matter what so I suspect the score has something wrong because if I manually adjust the beam, it still flips.
In reply to Flipping by schepers
Thanks for that - you're right (tested using MuseScore 2.0 Nightly Build 4300).
What should we do?
In reply to Thanks for that - you're by chen lung
I'm not sure. The report claims the flipping should always work, so maybe try to create a score and duplicate the beam/flip problem so it can be fixed again.
In reply to Not sure by schepers
I re-opened that issue.
I tried a new score earlier and it was a problem.
I edited a few wrong notes and added a Bb Tuba to double up on the pedal part to make it sound realistic.
In reply to Some missing notes and mistakes by Sphyther
"The tuba proper was first patented by Prussian bandmaster Wilhelm Wieprecht and German instrument-builder Johann Gottfried Moritz in 1835... This instrument was soon adopted by British brass bands."
[See http/ww.blackdiamondbrass.com/tbahist/tubahist.htm]
Since J.S. Bach died on 28 July 1750, (85 years earlier than the invention of the tuba) it is unlikely that adding a tuba would make the piece sound "more realistic." But thank you for the effort.
BWV 565 has been orchestrated many times, perhaps most conspicuously so by Leopold Stokowski for the Philadelphia Orchestra, and featured in the Disney movie “Fantasia.”
I wish to know of any "missing notes" or "mistakes."
In reply to "The tuba proper was first by Bill Watkins
The Bb Tuba I put in was just to give the impression of a 16' Reed found on most organs in that era. In a study on the organs that Uncle Johann might have played on there might have been a 16' reed and even a 32' reed found on the pedals. The pedals on this program needs a bit of "Oomf"!
JS Bach was inspired to composed this piece when he attended an year-end organ concert by D Buxtehude in 1706.
Some music scholars believe that this piece was not written by JS Bach at all and that it was written for solo violin in A minor many years after JS Bach's death and later transcribed to D minor to be played on an organ.
In reply to The Bb Tuba I put in was just by Sphyther
that comes with MuseScore, it's OK for checking for errors in note entry. But rather than tweak it like this, better to get a good one. There's another thread here that references one that's much better: "sinfon36.sf2 soundfont"
http://musescore.org/en/node/10599
-- J.S.
In reply to It all depends on your sound font. If you have the default one by John Sprung
Where do I find this soundfont?
In reply to The Bb Tuba I put in was just by Sphyther
“The pedals on this program needs a bit of "Oomf"!”
They may well. But the performance you are hearing depends on the sound font you are using.
BWV565 is also one of the new demo files for MuseScore 2.0. It features (at least) two new features of this upcoming version : playback via Aeolus & embed of original images. With Aeolus, you should be able to change the organ stops.
If you are on windows or mac, you can try a nightly build for MuseScore 2.0. See [[nodetitle:Comparison of stable, prerelease, and nightly builds]]
Sample audio created by recording MuseScore with Audacity.
Bwv565 by lasconic
In reply to BWV565 is also one of the new by [DELETED] 5
How do you do this spaces?:
In reply to One Question by juzekxx02
Double click on a note, and use the arrow keys (left/right), when done click outside (the stem will follow)
In reply to Double click on a note, and by [DELETED] 5
Thanks, it works!