Tied notes sometimes don't play back at all (depending on how they're entered)

• Mar 19, 2012 - 15:50

I am noticing an inconsistency in the behavior of tied notes.

So this mainly happens when editing existing notes and trying to add a tied note. This is roughly what happens to me most of the time:

- I have two quarter notes on beat 1 & 2 and a quarter rest on beat 3 and I want to add a tied note on beat 3. (The example is trivial.)
- I put the cursor on beat 3 and press +, nothing happens
- I put the cursor on beat 2 and press +, the note on beat 2 sounds, visually noting happens
- I press + again, a tied note on beat 3 appears and it sounds

Now when I play back this bar, beat 2 and 3 are completely silent. I'm assuming because MS registered beat 2 as a tied note. (Since I pressed + on beat 2). But there is no tie shown from beat 1 to beat 2 and they are not playing back as tied notes. So the inconsistency is that beat 2 isn't triggering because it's behaving as the second part of a tied note, but beat 1 isn't prolonged because it is not marked as a tied note.

To make this behavior consistent I think you should be able to put your cursor anywhere, and pressing + would add a tied note to the previous note.

(BTW the workaround is re-entering the note on beat 2 and then press +. Then all works as expected.)


Comments

Could you post a sample file and specific steps to reproduce? I am not quite understanding what you are describing, starting with step 1 - like, are you in note entry mode or not, and how did the cursor *get* to beat 3 - nor do I know how you are moving the cursor in the subsequent steps (eg, cursor keys, leaving note entry, clicking, and re-entering).

I find that while in note entry mode, pressing + to enter a tie only works if pressed immediately after entering a note, not if you subsequently move the cursor or leave then re-enter note entry mode. That much has been discussed here and is known (I think there may already be an issue submitted., but am not sure). But I've never seen a case where this leads to something not playing correctly once it *is* entered. Seems like it must be tied to the specifc series of steps you are describing, but more detail would help.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Here's the sample file and to me it seems like there is no other way to not replicate this then pressing + to enter a tie immediately after entering a note.

bar 1:
in note entry press c, c, 0, c
Esc to leave note entry
Click the note on beat 2
N to enter note entry
Press + twice

bar 2:
in note entry press c, c, 0, c
press left twice
press + twice

bar 3:
in note entry press c, c, 0, c
press left twice
Esc to leave note entry
N to enter note entry
press + twice

None of the notes on beat 2 and 3 play back for me.

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Tied notes.mscz 1.53 KB

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

This seems to be a temporary problem. After saving, closing and opening the file the notes play back fine.

BTW in all cases it's enough to press + only once. The second just adds a tied note as it should. It's the first one that causes the bug. And reopening the file fixes it every time.

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