Using multiple soundfonts - how????
I've just been playing with the multiple soundfonts facitily.
I have 2 loaded - the default Fluid.sf3 and the Jeux,sf2 pipe organ sound font.
Despite having sounds from both listed in the mixer, only sounds from the first soundfont in the list are playing.
Am I doing something wrong or does this need reporting in the issue tracker?
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I don't know the answer to your question - but do you need to open the synthesizer window, select the soundfont you want to use and hit "load" ?
I never really figured out what that button is for or why it would be required, but I hit it out of habit and multiple soundfonts play back OK for me.
In reply to I don't know the answer to by TavyMusic
Clicking load makes absolutely no difference - the save and load buttons simply grey out.
I still only get sounds from the soundfont at the top of the list in the synthesiser window.
Windows 8 Pro
Self build d9ddf6b which is based on d4017f3
In reply to Clicking load makes by ChurchOrganist
Are you able to share the musescore file?
In reply to Are you able to share the by TavyMusic
No point - it will show the same behaviour with any score loaded.
In reply to No point - it will show the by ChurchOrganist
check it, moves the new sounfont above. Is that how it works?
In reply to If I'm not mistaken, by Shoichi
But that would mean you can only use one soundfont at a time, wouldn't it?
In reply to But that would mean you can by Jojo-Schmitz
If is there an alternative, I've not found it (on R.1e3f6f6.).
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(however I downloaded Lame, thanks)
In reply to No point - it will show the by ChurchOrganist
Did you try each soundfont alone? Is it a new score ? and existing one? I have no problem loading and playing two soundfonts currently.
In reply to Did you try each soundfont by [DELETED] 5
Each soundfont works fine on its own
New score, existing score, imported from 1.3 or created from 2.0 all behave the same.
Despite having the sounds from both soundfonts listed in the mixer only sounds from the one listed first in the synthesiser will play even if you select a sound from the second.
So Lasconic what procedure do you follow to use 2 soundfonts simultaneously?
I have noticed that moving a soundfont up to first position in the synthesiser window turns its typeface heavier than the rest, suggesting that is the one selected.
In reply to Each soundfont works fine on by ChurchOrganist
From a clean Musescore 04f6cea64a
In reply to From a clean Musescore by [DELETED] 5
Well this is very strange.
I've followed the procedure Lasconic details above.
I have tried with a new self build, and with the latest nightly build, but still, although I can select sounds from both soundfonts in the mixer MuseScore still only plays the sounds from the first soundfont in the list.
Is this a Windows 8 thing??
In reply to Well this is very by ChurchOrganist
are the sound different enough so you are sure they are not the same? Which soundfont are you using?
In reply to are the sound different by [DELETED] 5
I have tried with the Jeux pipe organ soundfont, and also RolandGS and TimGM6Mb
In reply to From a clean Musescore by [DELETED] 5
A thought has just occured to me.
What are the Program Change and Bank Select numbers of the Brazilian Flute Lasconic?
In reply to A thought has just occured to by ChurchOrganist
I don't know. I look into polyphone but could find it. You can download it here. http://www.sf2midi.com/soundfonts/file-detail/freeztar-brazil-kit-sf2-1…
I tried with jeux d'orgue, same procedure, same result, it just works...
In reply to A thought has just occured to by ChurchOrganist
Which two specific sounds are you trying to use? I notice that Jeaux uses banks 0 and 1 same as general MIDI, so there is a great potential for a clash there.
In reply to Which two specific sounds are by TavyMusic
OK, I think I may have found the issue here:
* If the two soundfonts don't use the same banks, then there's no issue.
* If they do use the same banks, then those higher up the list in the synthesizer window overwrite those lower down. So if you try to mix jeux.sf2 with a general MIDI font, then one will always overwrite the other as jeax uses banks 0 and 1.
The only solution I can see for you at present is to use polyphone or Viena to extract those presets you want from either jeux or general midi and put them in a new font in some other bank.
The annoying thing is that software MIDI players like SynthFont do not have this limitation (so the other solution is to export MIDI and play back in SynthFont).
In reply to OK, I think I may have found by TavyMusic
That's exactly what I thought might be happening.
It's no biggie for me as I was just testing the multiple soundfont facility.
Now I know the limitations I can work round it.
Incidentally part of the plan is to produce a customised version of Jeux for use with MuseScore
In reply to Which two specific sounds are by TavyMusic
No particular sounds, but if you select program 1 from Jeux (Montre) for the 1st instrument in the score and program 1 from FluidRS (Yamaha Grand Piano) for the second you should get a downward C major scale first with an organ sound and then with a piano sound in the attached test piece - in fact they both sound the same, either piano or organ depending which soundfont is first in the list.
Don't try to open this file with 1.3 - it won't load!
In reply to No particular sounds, but if by ChurchOrganist
Yup.
I've just started a new thread with some of my thoughts on improving soundfont handling.
In reply to From a clean Musescore by [DELETED] 5
can you send me a link to freeztar brazil kit? it is no where online
In reply to can you send me a link to by Nathankeefer
Google threw up this......
http://keithclemmons.com/freeztar-brazil-kit-soundfont-sf2-free-downloa…
Hello. I've figured it out. If you go to the mixer, you half to pick the sounds from the sound fonts you want. The sounds will be organized by sound font, so to find the sounds from the second sound font, you must scroll past the first.
In reply to Hello. I've figured it out… by [DELETED] 8336126
Thank you so much! This worked perfectly for me. :)
Instead of just some complicated thing, here is a simple solution.
(This might work for Mac users only. Please check this solution to see if it works with Windows as well).
The Musescore sheet is playing a previous version of itself. Let me explain. When you add the new SoundFont, it won't work because it is not saved into the Musescore SoundFont file. Once you save and restart, the new SoundFont will be available to use.
Then you will be able to use multiple sound fonts
Hello ChurchOrganist from ten years ago. You can try Musescore 4, but it hasn't come out yet. You have to wait ten years but just hold tight, it'll be here.
In reply to Hello ChurchOrganist from… by FBXOPWKDOIR2
I am sorry to tell you that ChurchOrganist couldn't wait. He was an energetic and very helpful contributor to these forums, but sadly he died a while back.
In reply to I am sorry to tell you that… by DanielR
Yes, in 2021. Very sad indeed, and a loss to the Musescore community.
That said, my point is that older posts should perhaps be read-only. There is no purpose to continuing the thread, except maybe, and only in this case, as some sort of memorial to ChurchOrganist.
In reply to Yes, in 2021. Very sad… by FBXOPWKDOIR2
Perhaps threads with no activity after a certain period of time should automatically become read-only.
In reply to Perhaps threads with no… by yonah_ag
Yes