• Apr 26, 2019 - 14:40

Attached is a scan of p72-73 of pumping nylon by Scott Tennant, this is one of the ways of notating rasgueados, there are many others for example in Juan Matin's earliest tutor about 1978.

Play back is another problem, the chord breaks faster than if it was arpeggiated or strum, but is not unison.

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tennant.pdf 1.16 MB


As for playback: The "Arpeggio > Stretch" value determines the fraction of the note length that the strum takes. So setting it to e.g. 0.5 makes the chord break twice as fast. ("Select > All Similar Elements in Same Staff" is helpful.)

I've tried recreating some of the scan using Arpeggio arrows as a workaround:
They were very finnicky to place. Copy-Paste helps, but accidentals mess up the horizontal/X-position. (I've deliberately left in the mistake in the 2nd groupings of ex. 9-12.)
The arpeggio-arrow is thicker than note stems (ugly on closer inspection), and upstrokes often reach above the beams. This can be solved by double-clicking and dragging the blunt end of the arrow inside the tip, thus reducing it to a triangle. (There are also triangles in the custom symbols, which won't change playback. Maybe add invisible arpeggio arrows, with auto-placement off?)
Then, if we want to hide the note heads (8-12), we need to keep the stem visible to get the vertical line and place the triangle at its tip manually (ex. 12, groupings 1&2 vs 3&4). Its length can't be adjusted, though, so the tip has to be where the lowest (invisble) note is. This could get much more irritating if the chords would actually change...

So AFAICT it's not strictly necessary to mostly recreate the notation & playback, but it requires a lot of work, it's not procedural & fragile to any changes, and definitely wouldn't like to have to notate more than a few chords in a composition.
Could this be solved with user-defined palettes?

In reply to by snieb

the best stretch is about 0.15. The rest is bad news: flamenco guitar is about 1/3 chords like this and every book notates them differently. I have worked out what I think is the best way: it minimizes ink and I hope that there is no ambiguity. More bad news is there are a lot of prime number beat division, 5 and 7's in the space of 4. The way that I deal with this is put a tremelo bar through the note stem and the number of times that it is played after the stem and then put RH fingers like i and i up, playback just plays quavers...
I think that the best thing to do is wait until I can get old of the 1970's Juan Martin tutor, this is the best one but uses a lot of ink and does tableture as well, scan and then do how I would notate the same passage, I cannot see this happening any time soon. There are other people in the flamenco group who might have ideas.

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