Adding chords
I have a trio and I want to add a base (continuo) to it. The bass players do not like not having a part. Though as recorders players they all play another instruments, they can all play SAT and B.
I am not very good at theory. So is musescore capable of labelling the chords in the orginal music?
I have had some success using Chordify but that only takes a one note theme to create the chords, whereas I already have three.
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See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input#chords
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/chord-symbols
I am very unclear about the nature of the situation you are describing. Is this classical music, jazz, pop music, or what? The term 'continuo' is only used in reference to classical music of the Baroque, in which bass parts are notated exactly, not optional, and a keyboard or lute or other chording instrument plays chords notated as figures, again, with no choice of what chord (but choice as to the voicing).
In reply to I am very unclear about the… by [DELETED] 1831606
The piece I particularly want to do, is a trio in baroque style. Yes I can choose the chord to play. But want I want it to do is to tell me the chords it is playing.
In reply to I am very unclear about the… by [DELETED] 1831606
The piece I particularly want to do, is a trio in baroque style. Yes I can choose the chord to play. But want I want it to do is to tell me the chords it is playing.
In reply to The piece I particularly… by citizenz
Something like: https://musescore.org/en/project/chord-identifier-musescore-3-port or https://musescore.org/en/project/chord-identifier-special-v3?
In reply to Something like: https:/… by kuwitt
When you say you have a trio, I assume you mean you have a piece of music arranged for three players (rather than having three players who have nothing to play yet). The trio already has a bass part, the part with the lowest pitched notes. To give another (fourth) player something to play just give them either the same notes or the same notes shifted down an octave. Identifying chords will not help greatly if you have little expertise in harmonic theory as putting a note in the bass that is different to the current lowest harmony note will change the effect of the harmony by changing the chord's inversion.
In reply to When you say you have a trio… by SteveBlower
If you are looking for appropriate chords to play on a keyboard to accompany a Baroque trio, the score you have may or may not have "figured bass" telling you what chords to play, in which case you must have expertise in that subject matter. If it does not have "figured bass", you need even more expertise to figure out "what the chords are" or "what a keyboardist should play". If the piece is not too long, I volunteer to do that for you if you want (although if it is "in the baroque style" and not truly of the baroque, it may or may not be possible to infer coherent harmonies from it).
In reply to If you are looking for… by [DELETED] 1831606
That is very kind of you. But I really want to learn how to do it. As I have said I am have a good time with Chorify. I just though that Musescore could do something like that.
There is a fab set of Variations to La folia by Antonio Godinho here on musescore and the final variation X is a Scherzo and Trio. I really want to put a bass on the Trio. I have contacted the composer but he is not answering. It was submitted some years ago.
I have converted the Scherzo for recorders SATB it is great, I cannot wait to play it. I would like to publish it on Musescore but
I really feel I need to get the composers permission.
In reply to That is very kind of you. … by citizenz
I have got a couple of books on music Theory which I hope to absorb while on holiday next couple of weeks. Then I will see what I can do to the trio and turning it into Recorders SATB.
In reply to I have got a couple of books… by citizenz
I did find it. https://musescore.com/user/57909/scores/121760 . As the composer posted it six plus years ago and hasn't posted anything since, you're not likely to find him if you haven't yet. I wish you the best, but I don't think you can learn to be a composer from a couple of books in a couple of weeks, any more than an instrumentalist, singer, or painter. Given what I see, the trio should be playable by competent recorder players as it is. There is no issue involving chords here.
In reply to I did find it. https:/… by [DELETED] 1831606
Yes it is fine as a trio and can be played but I still want a bass part or the bass section will sulk. I think I may have come across what I am looking for. There is something called Chord Analyser software. It will take a midi file and tell you which chords are being played. So I will check that out. I just though that Musescore might be able to do it.
I will be able to put in the bass with out a huge problem. I was taught how to put a three note bass either chord or arpeggio onto any fairly simply melody while playing the piano as a child. I was best doing it in G, so I could also transpose the music to that key at the same time. I need to dust off the old grey cells.
And if I get stuck there is always Google Bach though that only does two bars at a time.
And I will be able to hear if it is ok.
So I have now Downloaded Chord Cadenza. I will see what it can do.
In reply to Yes it is fine as a trio and… by citizenz
The bass should play the lowest part in the trio, even if that doubles the tenor part in a 4-voiced ensemble. An arpeggiated chord may make sense on a piano as a dirt-simple accompaniment for an preexisting song, but not on a bass instrument, and certainly not as an additional voice to a carefully-composed "baroque style" trio. Many people here, including current actual music professors, actually have a large amount of knowledge about analyzing and composing music; I don't think you appreciate the gravity and difficulty of the task,
You're in charge, but to me, this does not sound like a way to write or arrange music. But I think your mind is made up. Why don't you do it and see if you like what you create, or your recorder players, or anyone else likes it? Nothing else really counts.
In reply to The bass should play the… by [DELETED] 1831606
My groups like what I produce Well mostly. I am improving all the time. I fill in various gaps in music. Orchestral wind players need time to catch their breathe but this is not the case with Recorder players. It is easy to make the sounds it does not take much puff. We don't like hanging about with nothing to do and we cannot count. So lots of rests is bad news. I am a tenor or bass player, so I like some action. Our average age is about 76.
Yes the Bass could play the third part, but doubling up with the tenors is not much fun, the basses can go a fourth lower.
Anyway I have set myself the challenge, it I do not like what I produce, I will try again.
Lots of duets and trios end up SATB!! I am simply disappointed that Musescore does not contain a chord analyser capability.
I was put off my ability to compose music as a child by the very professionals you are mentioning. I used to continually have melodies, variations and developments flowing through my head. I used to take a piece of music and learn to play it and then enhance it. I played pieces written in 3/4 as 4/4 or 6/8. I played pieces in minor keys in major ones.
You name it I could do it. But was told it was more important to past dumbing exams. Noone even allowed me to know that taking a theme and playing with it was a well established technique.
But they completely stifled my creativity, with their rules. I will now take the advice of a child called Alma Deutscher and do my own thing. I am only now beginning to take on board what I should have been encouraged to learn 60 years ago.
And with Musescore doing a lot of the work, and a life time of computer skills, boy am I having fun!
A few weeks ago my daughter played Clarinet with an recorder ensemble playing my arrangement of the orchestral parts of Mozarts Clarinet Concerto Adagio. We loved it. Squashing it into instruments with a 1.6 octave range to fit our arthritis is interesting. Maybe it was not perfect but who cares.