Organ Stops

• May 16, 2020 - 18:14

Newbie as I am, is there a way to vary the stops played when the instrument is either the organ or pipe organ -- with a plug-in or other feature?
I'm a professional church organist, so I'm used to varying the organ stops on hymn verses and throughout preludes, postludes, and voluntaries. So what I'm looking for is something that allows just an 8' flute or adding a 32' diapason, etc.


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There was some support for this during 2.x develoment for the Aeolus Organ Synthesizer providing all those, the code had been disabled tough after a row with the original author.

Once work on MuseScore 4 starts (not too far ahead) we may be looking at this again.

In reply to by 4oclockguy

I'm an organist. This is an extremely complex area. Are you talking about controlling the registrations of an actual MIDI-enabled pipe organ (there are plenty) via MuseScore (registration control impossible in this scenario),working with a Virtual Pipe Organ system such as Hauptwerk or GrandOrgue with MuseScore (several paths here), locating "Organ Sound Fonts" (which offer limited degrees of registrational flexibility), or, in the most general "Just how the heck do we work with organ music on MuseScore?" (all of which are good questions I can answer and have been answered in the past). There are no "instrument plugins".

In reply to by [DELETED] 1831606

Saying "I'm an organist" means I sit on an organ bench, play notes with my hands and feet, accompany congregational singing for the Lutheran liturgy and hymns, and while doing all that, pay attention to what sounds are coming out of the pipes, control which pipes play, how loud, and in what combinations.
I am just starting to become familiar with MuseScore 3 and my Covid 19 isolation has been spent transcribing organ and choral pieces I've composed over the past 55 years. I am not as proficient as I once was at the organ so I'm trying to find a way to duplicate the type of sounds I was able to produce in past years while sitting on the bench. Frankly, I wonder sometimes how I was able to play some of the works I wrote while I was in college. I'm clueless regarding electronic music, MIDI, electric pianos, or synthesizers. My experience with computer programming was back in the 80's with DOS Basic. But I love to learn new things and the MuseScore community support is incredible. So thanks for anything you can offer.

In reply to by 4oclockguy

I play organs with my hands and feet, but not for any congregation, and have done so for many decades. I compose music, too, including traditional organ music (see http://musescore.com/bsg/sets ).

MuseScore doesn't have built-in stuff to perform organ music at all well, but, as I said, there are other solutions involve free and not-so-free products and offerings. MuseScore is purposefully a music typesetting program. You can prepare excellent editions of organ music as well as any other kind of known (Western) music. That is what it is here for. It is not a performance engine, although it can provide fairly reasonable performances of a great number of instruments and ensembles, although generally not enough to make truly-professional sounding recordings of the kind you might hear in a film soundtrack. But it's pretty damned good, I think. There are free and non-free packages available in the world that offer higher-quality sounds that can be used in conjunction with MuseScore successfully (e.g., the UVI orchestral suites).

But that stops at organs (does that register? :). As you know, organs are, in themselves, an "orchestration" technology, through the organ-building and repertoire traditions of Europe for 400+ years. MuseScore unaided can't really do that. MuseScore uses a technology called "MIDI" which permits 128 different sounds, and they are for all kinds of instruments (as required by the spec), not the gigantic variety of organ stops. There are, however, available, "sound fonts", which allow you to substitute 128 sounds collected by someone else, and there are "organ" soundfonts derived from various real instruments, whose 128 sounds are selected soloed stops and combinations, and you can get "decent", but not "quality" results with those. Jeux 1.4 (google it) is a particular favorite.

For really, really quality results, you need a "Virtual Pipe Organ" system, which allow full registrational flexibility of 1-for-1 pipes of renowned instruments recorded in real venues (listen to any of the recordings in my "Hauptwerk" set) with tremendous accuracy, fidelity, beauty, and artistic effectiveness. Hauptwerk (http://hauptwerk.com ) costs real money, though, although there is a not-quite-as-good free VPO system, GrandOrgue, that you can learn about. If you really want credible organ peformances, this is the only way to go, but using it with MuseScore is far from trivial, See all the posts in https://musescore.com/groups/3642106 , in order. Feel free to PM me.

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