Chorus SATB (or TTBB, e.g.) "closed score" should be cited as 4 parts.

• Mar 22, 2021 - 23:40

Hi. When I upload chorus "closed score" in which there are only 2 staves but actually, it is for Stave 1 (S+A) and Stave 2 (T+B), it should be recognised as 4 parts, not 2 parts. Or, if it is for S+A and Br (i.e., there are only 3 "Voices" used), it should be recognised as 3 parts, and so on. What currently MoseScore means that it is of two instruments. I know that it may be algorithmically difficult and it may not be of urgent priority. However, since MuseScore offers to start the score as chorus "Closed Score", whatever is expected of normal chorus "Closed score" is not there. For example, hairpins and dynamics should be placed above the staves automatically for these staves.


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Sounds like you are talking about the score sharing website musescore.com, best to bring this up over there on that site.

Note you can create 4 parts from your two staves within MuseScore, using the controls in the File / Parts dialog. I have no idea how that would affect classification on musescore.com, though.

The ability to have different defaults for dynamics position depending on staff settings is definitely one being considered, it's a question of figuring out the best way to design this capability.

But do note you can set up a score that way - setting dynamics above the staff as a global style settings then save that as a template to use instead of the standard one.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Hi. Marc. Thanks. Yes I know how to create 4 parts from it (although I have to create voices, if they are not there, yet). However, for presentation/engraving purposes, often that is not what is desired. "Close score" must remain as"Closed score", except when I need those Voices to be separate, in order to create individual parts. I also know how to set global change for the hairpins and dynamic symbol positions to be above staves. However, when I do so, the change does not apply to only those Vocal staves. Chorus scores often include Vocal staves as well as instruments staves (e.g., an accompanying instrument, chamber orchestra score, etc.). It is too cumber some to change some staves. There is no way to change them wholesome for the relevant stave ONLY. Symbol positions must be changed one-by-one for those staves that are different from the global setting.

In reply to by yoichi123

Right, that's why I said we do eventually want to add new features to allow positions of dynamics to be controllable per staff. it's also why the current templates don't default to above.

Anyhow, again, as for the rest, that sounds like you are talking about something having to do with the score sharing website musescore.com, so you'd need to discuss this over there on that site.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Yes, I realise that you have mentioned that the counting issue is for the Web. Counting "parts" correctly is for the musescore.com Web site to show the summary of scores and number of "instruments". However, I need to mention: currently this won't be automatic, even if there is a function to count "Voices" in staves as "parts". Because some instruments can do only one "Voice", such as flute, horns, human vocals, etc. But, others can do/need multiple "Voices" in staves but still need to be counted as one "part", strings, guitar, harp, piano, organ, etc. Probably there has to be some distinction between those real "Voices" and just fingers/bowing??? I guess that makes things complicated, though. I always thought they were not really "Voices" in Piano stave. Is "Voice" a common musical term to describe/call independent/polyphony melody/movement line progression in keyboards??? The reason why I mention it here is because the Web site may not (?) be able to do a proper counting, unless it is sorted out in MuseScore first. Or, should it be the other way around, should those "Voices" in vocal staves or wind pipes be called/designated as "Parts"?

In reply to by yoichi123

"Voice" is indeed the standard term to describe what happens when there are multiple independent parts on one staff, or multiple independent parts of any kind. For example, fugues are described as being in three voices, or four voices, etc, even when written for piano. "Part" is more commonly use to mean the actual physical piece of paper you print for the musicians in an ensemble - the violin part, the piano part, the flute part, etc. And some of those parts might be a single staff, some might be multiple staves. Even for those that are single staff, there might be multiple voices - violin parts, guitar parts, xylophone parts, and others can contain multiple voices. As can flutes, for that matter, if there are any divisi sections.

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