Limit auto-selecting and auto-placement

• Nov 5, 2021 - 15:38

Autoselecting: When I hold shift and select certain notes, I want it to select only those notes. But it always automatically selects notes in other parts, or other notes in chords etc. Is there a different shortcut I could be using to select only what I clicked on?

Auto-placement: A lot of the time when I place ties (and sometimes this is connected to the above issue, but sometimes it just happens) it automatically inserts ties that connect to nearby notes, or even to notes in the next measure. Will finding a fix to the above problem help, or is there something else I should be doing?


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There are many ways to limit your selections. A right click on a note or rest or text item etc, will bring up a menu with an entry "Selection". Chosing that gives you the option to choose all similar elements and a further "more" option to refine that even more. There is also the selection filter available from the view menu or keyboard shortcut f6. That is better used to exclude things from your selection. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/selection-modes for more details.

You are probably going about entering ties the wrong way. During note entry you can enter a note tied to the current one by selecting the desired duration of the "tied to" note and using keyboard shortcut "+" or by hitting the tie button in the tool bar. Out of note entry you can tie two notes of the same pitch similarly using "+" shortcut or the tie button in the toolbar. It is up to you to where those two note are. If they are not next to each other then the tie will still be entered. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/ties for more details.

(I assume that you are aware of the difference between ties - join notes of the same pitch, and slurs - join notes of different pitch.)

In reply to by SteveBlower

Selection filter was exactly what I was looking for, thank you!!

About the ties (which yes ties and not slurs), I guess I'm wanting to prevent it from adding ties between the "following notes of the same pitches." 99% of the time I'm adding them out of note entry, which means I'm selecting two notes that I want a tie between and pressing the tie button, but is there a way in that case to only add one in between those two notes?

In reply to by Leighla Foster

Ahhh, there's the problem: select only the first note you want tied (the "tied from note") before entering the tie. If you select both notes then the second one will also have a tie attached that "looks for" the next note of the same pitch, wherever that might be.

If there is no note of the same pitch after the selected note, the tie will not be entered. That is why you are only seeing them sometimes.

Drag-select is a way fo creating range selections. It isn't intended as a way to select random individual notes Wouldn't be useful if the only way to do that required them to be contained within a rectangle - how would you detect, for example, just the the top and bottom notes of a chord while leaving the middle not unselected? For this, Ctrl+click is the standard method used in pretty much all programs to select elements individually. As mentioned, there are ways to select more "logically", such as by pitch, by voice, etc. if you attach your score and describe in more detail what you are actually trying to accomplish, we can understand and assist better.

What you describe with ties is, as also mentioned above, simply there result of doing it wrong. if for whatever reason you fail to enter a tie during note input and are now going back to do it lster, don't select both notes, just select the first. The tie command is "start a tie from the selected note". If multiple notes are selected, this turns into "start a tie from each of the selected notes", not "look att the selected notes and figure out how to pair them up". but this doesn't even come up if you simply enter the ties directly during note input - much more efficient anyhow since you don't need to bother entering the second note. Enter the first, select duration for the second, "", and then on to the next note, no need to leave note input mode or select anything at all.

BTW, autplacement isn't really related to any of this, it's about things like avoiding collisions between things likes notes and text.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Thanks for the insight! When I start using programs I tend to be impatient and just go for it and see if I can figure it out as opposed to reading manuals or tutorials - hence missing such a simple fix as this.
Most of the things I work on are converted pdf's that need lots of little edits, which is why I don't think to use note input mode very much.

(also ctrl. click is the exact thing I was looking for, but I couldn't figure out how to word that without remembering there was an actual shortcut)
(speaking of wording, autoplacement was just me making up a term to describe my situation, sounds like it's an actual function in the program that I wasn't trying to reference)

Thanks again :)

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