Chord Fonts - Only 4 work...and none of them are great

• Dec 31, 2021 - 03:37

Hello, a few of you have responded to my calls for help - Thank You! Your ideas have been valuable.

Meanwhile, I went through every single font in my MuseScore v3.6.2.54...., rev. 3224f34. Only 4 of them are close to acceptable in my music world. None handle "number ornamentation" well (e.g., 7th chords, etc.).

I'll attach 4 very small sample files. Here's my perspective of these fonts:

MuseJazz - Pros: 1) the most musically correct; 2) flats & sharps are raised and smaller in size; & 3) chord "words" like "maj" & "dim" are italicized. Con: Not the easiest to read.

Arial Unicode MS - Pros: 1) easiest to read; & 2) flats & sharps are smaller in size. Con: nothing is raised.

MS Reference Sans Serif - Pro: flats & sharps are smaller in size. Con: nothing is raised.

Edwin - Pro: flats & sharps are smaller in size. Con: nothing is raised.

Hope this is of value to someone. If anyone knows of a better chord font than these, please LMK.

Thanks,
Rich


Comments

The superscripting isn't built into the fot, it's part of the style settings. So go to Format / Style / Chord Symbols and you can set the scale and offset for extensions and modifiers independently. So if you like serif0type fonts but want superscripting, just stick with the default Edwin but set the options appropriately. The other traditional fonts we provide are FreeSerif and FreeSans, and the same applies to them.

If you prefer handwritten fonts, there is MuseJazz Text and also Petaluma Script. They are designed to mimic the look of popular jazz fakebooks.

All of these fonts we provide as part of MuseScore and should all work well. other fonts not provided by MuseScore will work if they provide the correct symbols, but obviously we can't control fonts provided by others. Still, there are quite a few fonts that provide music symbols. There should be way more than just those on most systems. But if yours doesn't happen to have any other suitable fonts, that's something to report to Microsoft or whoever provided the fonts on your system.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Marc, I appreciate your response...but your "set the options appropriately" isn't that helpful for me. Still, I went to "Format/Style/Chord Symbols" and experimented with every single value.

I was able to raise the numbers - but nothing else! That means that C7 & A9 look correct. But no changes to the flat or sharp signs; no changes to the "maj" in C major seventh or the "sus4" in B suspended fourth.

If there's a way to actually get the chord names to appear correctly, I would love to learn how!

Thank you,
Rich

In reply to by RichMillerMusic

It's important to understand there is no single definition of "correctly".

The defaults in MuseScore are based on how chord symbols are typically formatted by most major publishers of popular music such as Hal Leonard or Warner / Alfred. These are usually completely unsuperscripted, so Edwin all by itself gives that look right out of the box.

The MuseJazz and Petaluma Script fonts as well as the superscripting style settings and the "Jazz" appearance option in general (separate from font choice or superscripting options) are based on how chord symbols are typically formatted by major jazz publishers such as Sher Music or Kendor and following the standards laid forth by Brandt & Roemer in their seminal work on the subject. These all adhere to pretty specific rules on formatting that do not include superscripting the abreviations for major, minor, or suspended except when "ma" is used as a modifier after "mi" as in "Cmi(ma7)". See for example https://teachers.stjohns.k12.fl.us/fowler-r/wp-content/blogs.dir/1024/f… if you don't have the Brandt/Roemer book this is based on. This chart comes form the Sher Music fakebooks, but it's also pretty much what most big band publishers follow.

But it's true that other random publishers might do things differently still, and maybe you are more accustomed to how one of them does it than the way the major publishers we follow do things. If you post a sample image showing the specific result you want (eg, a scan from a published work you are trying to emulate instead of the major publishers we already do emulate), someone can probably help you achieve that result by either pointing you to a font that already emulates it internally, or creating a custom chord description XML file that allows virtually any appearance you want.

MuseScore provides tons of flexibility but is designed so that the most standard things - those done by the largest publishers in the world - happen by default, and less common things might require some additional customization.

Things like superscripting "maj" and "sus" are not very common in the world of professionally published music. It is done in a few handwritten charts I know, but not generally done by professional editors except when going out of their way to emulate the look of some particular copyist's handwriting. The latter was the case, for example, when I worked as an editor on the Hal Leonard "Real Book" series. Even though Hal Leonard does not normally format their chord symbols in that way at all (they use the Brandt & Roemer system - ma/min instead of maj, not superscripted, etc), they did make the conscious choice to follow the original illegal Real Book more idiosyncractic look of the original student-produced handwriting in this series specifically just to stay consistent. And somewhere floating about you should be able to find a custom XML file already that emulates that specific style within MuseScore. So if that's your goal, it's pretty much a done deal already.

But again, there is no one single standard, so if you want help in reproducing the look of some particular published (or even unpublished) chart, just post an example so we can understand and assist better.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I appreciate the thorough explanation of how MuseScore - and you - have arrived at the presentation style(s) that you have. Thank you.

I've now used considerably more of your time than I had ever anticipated. My apologies.

Kudos to the creators of MuseScore! The MuseScore application & manual are so robust, I regularly find it quite challenging to find what I'm looking for - i.e., how to do something with the software.... Perhaps this stems from my computer software background, which often included writing documentation, help files, and teaching others how to design & use software.

Thank you again for your time & help!
~Rich

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