A Phantom DC al Coda?
Could someone tell me why when I play this chart at the end of the B section it returns to the top and starts over rather than going on to the C section? There is no DS, DC... repeat sign...
It is a lead sheet that I downloaded...
I thank you in advance!!!!!
Jeff
Springfield MO
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Try this one: Easy Living Sketch Score Concert F2.mscz
In your score, measure 19 had a bunch of D.C. 's and D.S.'s from which the text only was deleted, leaving a "phantom" jump behind which was honored during playback.
Clicking on a nearby element and then holding down the Alt key while using the right/left arrow keys and observing either the Status bar or the Inspector allowed the hidden jumps to be discovered and deleted.
In reply to Try this one: [inline:Easy… by Jm6stringer
SM!
Thank you soooooooooooooo much.
Was going nuts!
much appreciated!
Jeff in Springfield MO
In reply to SM! Thank you… by bluewisp1955
I want to explain the procedure in more detail because it is not self-explanatory.
If you have found the jump mark with ALT+arrow key, then press 'Alt-Shift-E' to enter the edit mode. Type any letter(s) and leave the edit mode, e.g. by using Esc. This newly written text is already seleceted, so press simply 'delete'.
In your score there have been several jump instructions in measure 19, so you have to repeat the above procedure several times. Unfortunately the letters itself had been removed, not the jump mark at all.
Important: Make sure the whole string is selected, not just the letters. Otherwise it leads to the result that the marks are still there an working, but not visible and not (easily) changeable.
In reply to I want to explain the… by HildeK
Hilde,
Thank you so very much for the further clarification!
It is very helpful!
Very much appreciated!
Jeff, in Springfield MO
In reply to Hilde, Thank you so very… by bluewisp1955
Hi Jeff, I'm not 'Hilde', just a nick name - the 'K' is part of my first name :-) - but doesn't matter ...
As I learned in the meantime, deleting the text string is not the cause of the problem. This has apparently not been clarified, one suspects that it could have come from an import from another program.
Anyway, after finding the invisible jump labels, pressing the delete button should be sufficient to remove them. In your file, however, there were six (!) such phantom jumps in measure 19 so this steps must be repeated six times! That confused me a little.
Another hint for this case I learned too: If you've found such a phantom jump choose 'select all similar elements', set in the inspector the 'Frame' to 'Circle' or 'Rectangle' and you can see all empty markers and delete them.
Greetings from Germany ...
@bluewisp...
You wrote:
It is a lead sheet that I downloaded...
Was this download a MuseScore (.mscz) file, or was the lead sheet of some other format (like musicxml) which you subsequently "imported" into MuseScore?
It would seem quite unusual (but not impossible) for a musescorer to have added a mixture of six different D.C.'s/D.S.'s and then delete only the text strings on each, turning them into "phantoms".
In reply to @bluewisp... You wrote: It… by Jm6stringer
As Marc Sabatella stated in https://musescore.org/en/node/334659 it doesn't seem possible to get these phantoms just by deleting the jump instruction letters. I tried it, but then the jump instructions are also deleted. A behavior as it should be.
It would be great if someone could point out a way how to create these phantoms.
In reply to As Marc Sabatella stated in… by HildeK
From the messed-up stem directions and the link given in the Score Properties, it seems pretty apparent to me this score came from another program entirely and was then imported into MuseScore via MusicXML. So very possibly, whatever went wrong, it wasn't the result of editing within MuseScore, but may have happened long before it was ever opened in MuseScore.
In reply to From the messed-up stem… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc,
I downloaded it from the MuseScore library, but who knows where it originated. I am very much a "user" of MuseScore and appreciate its simplicity/ease of use and its capability. But, I have absolutely no skill beyond being a musician who uses it for scores and lead sheets, so very much appreciate the continual support!
Jeff
Springfield MO
In reply to Thanks Marc, I downloaded it… by bluewisp1955
Marc
Also....
Thanks for pointing out the messed up stem directions. Every other week my jazz combo hosts a different vocalist, so sometimes function triumphs over form to get some lead sheets cranked out ASAP before the next gig. But, I do like my sheets to be legible and the notation correct, so thanks!
jeff
In reply to Marc Also.... Thanks for… by bluewisp1955
You're welcome! Any time I import a score from MusicXML, first thing I do is Ctrl+A to select all, Ctrl+R to reset (almost) everything to defaults. Here, you've probably made other manual adjustments you want to keep, but maybe consider thing: Ctrl+A to select all, press Notes in the Inspector to limit selection to just the notes, then forcing the "Stem direction" back to Auto. Since some stems directions are forced one way and others are forced another way, this can make it awkward to change them all at once, but sometimes the easiest way to do this is to change first to Up, then Down, then Auto.