I can't add only one empty mesure to the rests combines next to it.

• Feb 22, 2024 - 20:38

Hello, so, I am trying to extract a part file for the timpani out of an orchestral score.
But there is only one measure that I can't combine with the other rests (I am sending an print screen of it). I have 11 rests combined and right after it an empty measure that don't go with the others..... No hidden elements are in this measure, I already selected it and press "delete".
Might someone help me please?
Tkns

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Comments

SteveBlower

• Feb 22, 2024 - 22:30

You may have Break multimeasure rest selected in measure properties. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/measure-rests-and-multimeasure-rest…

I'm not at my PC at the moment and I can't remember whether that puts the break before the measure or after the measure with that setting; you'd better check both.

Jojo-Schmitz

• Feb 22, 2024 - 22:54

Please share the score

ThaisMontanari

• Feb 22, 2024 - 23:32

Thanks, but I didn't find the "Break multimeasure rest" option. Maybe because I am in MuseScore 4?

SteveBlower

• Feb 22, 2024 - 23:47

That is the Musescore 4 handbook that I gave the link to. Look at that handbook article to see that you find the Break multimeasure rest by right clicking in the measure and selecting Measure properties.

If you are using UK localisation it will be "bar properties" rather than "measure properties" and "multi-bar" rather than "multi-measure".

ThaisMontanari

• Feb 22, 2024 - 23:55

Thanks! I just fund it now. But it didn't resolve the problem. It was disabled. I activated it, and then I disabled it again, and nothing changed.

rothers

• Feb 23, 2024 - 07:33

If you want help do as Jojo asks

SteveBlower

• Feb 23, 2024 - 11:37

And you checked both the measure before the break and after it?

You will have to toggle off display of multimeasure rests (keyboard shortcut M) of course to be able to look at measure 11 of the multimeasure rest.

ThaisMontanari

• Feb 28, 2024 - 10:27

Hello, thanks for your help, I had a deadline so, I found a solution to justify the break that didn't go with the others. I did put my score here, but after a time, I removed it because it's my music and I don't feel ok leaving it here.

Although I didn't find a solution for my score, I made a file to attach here with only the timpani part so that you can help me understand what was the problem. When asked the timpani part, you can see, that 11 measures goes together and only one stay alone.

Thank you again!

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SteveBlower

• Feb 28, 2024 - 12:40

You have a stave text "Timpano 3" in measure 42. If you move it slightly you will see the "anchor line".

Text can only be placed in the first measure of a multi-measure rest without forcing a break. For example there is text (Afinar o timpano 2 ....etc.) in measure 31 at the start of the multi measure rest. You have text similar to "Timpano 3" In other similar places in the score where the text is attached to a measure with notes in it. I suggest you move that text to the following measure with the roll on B.

HildeK

• Feb 28, 2024 - 17:37

But in this case, that is not the only problem. If you delete 'Timpano 3', nothing changes here.
I found this sequence for this measure of the timpani excerpt (timpani.mscx):

          <KeySig>
            <eid>456516368859158</eid>
            <linked>
              </linked>
            <concertKey>0</concertKey>
            </KeySig>

which was apparently left over from a key change or an instrument change and was not deleted - or whatever happened there. And it cannot be deleted in the score window. This looks like a bug in the code and is most likely the main cause of the problem.
Such a code section can be found several times in this file. I think this makes no sense here and only interferes in connection with a multi-measure rest.
If I delete this block in the mscx, then this measure is included in the multi-measure rest.
And of course 'Timpano 3' must also be deleted.

SteveBlower

• Feb 28, 2024 - 17:57

The score properties says it was created with v 4.2.0. Perhaps the bug was fixed in 4.2.1.

ThaisMontanari

• Mar 12, 2024 - 14:47

Thank you so much for your help. I forgot to say, but adding this "Timpano 3" text was the "solution" that I found to justify this single bar. It wasn't the problem itself. But good to know that it was a bug. I created the score with a 4.2.0 version, and during the process of making it, I started using the 4.2.1. Maybe it was a bug cased because of this changing of version?
Anyway, thanks everyone for helping!