Tuplet tremolos
I've encountered some interesting notation from Schubert where he adds tuplet tremelos. As you can see in the photo, he notates them with a dot. This piece is in 4/4 so the dots don't make sense as augmentation dots. This would be a nice feature to have when transcribing lieder and other things similar. I think there are some cases of this in Russian music too.
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You can quite easily fake them using triplets and then setting triplet number and bracket to none
IMHO it also plays them as intended, 6 times each rather than 4 (as it would be without triplet and dot)
Just recently we had someone here that wanted the opposite, a triplet 3 at the half note but no dots. There the 'solution' was to make the dots invisible and to set the bracket to none
I would say that that is not a tremolo. It' just a "shorthand" for the three 1/8 notes in a tuplet.
In reply to I would say that that is not… by TomStrand
?? What other than a tremolo is that then?
In reply to ?? What other than a tremolo… by Jojo-Schmitz
I would play this rhythmically correct, i.e. exactly 6 notes (2 x 3) for the dotted half note. Tremolo, "zittern" in German is when you play it fast and not in rhythm, i.e. unsynchronised. At least for strings, tremolo is mostly denoted with three bars.
In the three examples below, only Albeniz shows a tremolo (three bars). The others rhythmic way of playing. In Beethoven, it's very clear because at first the 1/16 notes are written out but then "shorthanded" to two bars over the stem is used.
In reply to I would play this… by TomStrand
one stroke through stem -> 8th notes tremolo
two strokes through stem -> 16th notes tremolo
three strokes through stem -> 32nd notes tremolo