I need key signatures not accidentals

• Jul 20, 2015 - 21:41

I am working on arranging a piece for band and have been working in concert pitch on the score (very helpful!) But when I look at (for example) the clarinet part, I see what I see in this picture. It's the right absolute notes but I want a key signature not accidentals for each note.

After searching the forum I was guessing this is a courtesy key signature but I checked my settings and that one IS checked so clearly that's not what this is.

How do I give each of the parts a key signature instead of accidentals?

Thanks,
Heather

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It is easier to help if you attach the actual score, not just a pciture of it. As it is, I can *guess* your score is C concert and are expecting D for the clarinet part? One possibiltiy is that you may have accidentally set the score to be "atonal" rather than key of C - if you used the key signature icon with the "X" through it labelled "Open/Atonal" rather than the empty key signature labelled "C major, A minor". if so, simply changing the key signature to C major in the score would fix it.

if that doesn't help, we'd need you to psot the score in order to assist further.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Thanks for the reply. I tried changing the key signature to Eb, which I think I did in the right way, for range issues, but the clarinets are now in D which is definitively wrong. There's probably something I'm missing here since I'm new to MS but as far as I can tell I do have the key signatures set right.

The score-in-progress is attached and I'd appreciate any help you can give me.

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Unfortunately this score seems to have become corrupted somehow with respect to its key signatures. Was it created from scratch in 2.0.2, or perhaps begun in an earlier version, or imported from some other source entirely? Anything unusual you can think of that you might have done with regard to key signatures?

You can see the problem just viewing the Flute part. In the score, it's in Eb, but in the part, it is in C. Somehow the parts are completely out of sync with the score.

The good news is, it seems you can fix it by simply adding Eb back as the key signature signature in the score - that fixes it it for the score and all parts in a single operation. But I'd still like to understand how this could have happened.

I wonder if it had something to do with transposing the score. If I take your score - even after the fix - and transpose it with Notes / Transpose, it transposes the score but not the parts. So something is still out of sync. But it works fine in a score I create from scratch, at least sometimes. Seems to have something to do with whether the I am in concert pitch mode when I do the transposition, or maybe whether the score starts out in the key of "C". So it looks like you've probably stumbled onto a bug.

Unfortunately I'm having computer problems right now and can't tell more, but hopefully we'll figure it out soon.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Thank you for investigating! It was in fact created from scratch in at least v2... I'm not sure whether I'd downloaded an update or not when I started. I am very new to the software so it's possible I did something odd but it was not intentional.

If I change it back to Eb (from the main palette, yes?) that will correct them? Or am I safer to start a new file and re-enter the notes?

Thanks,
Heather

In reply to by SapphireNinja

If you change it back to Eb (yes, from the palette), it fixes the problem at least temporarily, but it you then try to transpose again, it will break again. However, if you delete the parts - go to File / Parts, delete them all, then do New All to regenerate them, *then* it should be OK. As far as I know Sorry, you're the first to discover this bug, so we're still figuring it out!

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