Rest location on staff
Hello. I'm writing a two-voice exercise for a student, and something odd is happening with the rests in Voice 2.
Voice 1 is working properly. The problem is that in Voice 2, all rests are appearing just above the staff, instead of the middle of the staff (at the "G" above the staff in Treble Clef). This happens whether I input the rests using the mouse or by pressing the space bar. I cannot seem to find anything that sets a rest location in the menu. Any suggestions?
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I have encountered this too. As a workaround you can manually drag the rest to the correct location using the mouse.
All my initial joy over MuseScore has evaporated as I fight to get notes placed in their correct locations in measures. I can't figure out how Musescore is supposed to work. Notes seem to choose at random where they want to plop down. And rests don't appear where they are needed. And the cursor jumps ahead past where I need to insert a note. Just getting notes a their correct moments is totally eluding me.
To make matters worse, in note entry mode, the voice 3 notes are coming in yellow, barely visible against a white background, and I can't see exactly where they are or whether they have dots. It's torture.
Could not Musescore instead simply bump notes against the beginning of measures and require user to insert rests to move them? Or could somebody please explain the voodoo that is going on with note positions and demon rests?
In reply to Rests are killing me too. by hawstom
This issue with note placement with the mouse is a known bug that has proven difficult to fix for the past half a year (see list of regressions ). When you are using the mouse you have to be very precise about the note placement. Look carefully where you need to place the note (since there is more choices than you would expect). Either that or use keyboard note entry which doesn't have this issue.
In reply to This issue with note by David Bolton
Moreover, using a keyboard for note entry is a lot more fast in my experience.
I love keyboard entry. But as I mentioned above, it doesn't work for me, the cursor skips right over the places I want to put notes. Yes, it seems to work fine for new entry. But for going back and fixing parts (voices), it gives me fits once I start reworking a measure. But I don't want to complain, I want to get on with my work.
David, how do you make it work? Do you use custom colors so you can see the notes better? Do you zoom very large? Do you adjust your screen brightness?
lasconic, it would be nice to stand behind you as you edit some of the measures I am having trouble with. I am sure I could pick up some tricks by watching you.
I am using the arrow keys, the space bar, and the letters and numbers. Is there some other key I should be using that might get the cursor into the area it's jumping? I mean sometimes it is jumping an entire measure, or sometimes part of a measure with no apparent rests.
In reply to I love keyboard entry. How do you make it work? by hawstom
Your right that the yellow is too difficult to see and should be fixed. The green and the pink could be darker too. In case you weren't aware, you can customize these colors via Edit > Preferences > Colors
Could you attach a few measures you are having problems with to this thread?
In reply to Your right that the yellow is by David Bolton
I'm transcribing Don't Worry Be Happy.
Look at the low voice.
Measure 2: There should be a half rest visible before the two quarter notes, but there isn't.
Measure 5: The playback skips and plays the first note at the end!
What have I done!?!
In reply to Here is a small piece attached with problem by hawstom
Your score isn't attached. Be sure to click "Attach" after you browse to find the file.
In reply to Your right that the yellow is by David Bolton
I'm trying again to attach it. Thanks, David! p.s. I listened to Steven Veazey's talk and I really liked it!
In reply to I love keyboard entry. How do you make it work? by hawstom
I have good results by:
going to the beginning of the bar
selecting note entry
Deciding the duration of the first note(s)
selecting that duration
using spacebar to set the positions of the notes (they appear as rests)
THEN - entering the notes where appropriate.
Hope this helps.
Regards.
In reply to Skip by xavierjazz
@Xavierjazz: Why do you use the spacebar to enter the rests instead of just typing the letters to enter the notes first time? That seems like an unnecessary step.
In reply to @Xavierjazz: Why do you use by David Bolton
I don't always, but it is useful if placement is a problem.
Regards.
In reply to Skip by xavierjazz
Xavierjazz, you pick a "short enough rest" and fill the measure with it when you are having placement problems? For example, I might use 1/16 rests to assist me in visualizing and pinpointing the location for notes if I am having trouble with placement at the right time coordinate?
Tom
In reply to Temporary rest by hawstom
My comment was aimed at trying to help the person have placement problems. Yes, I sometimes use the rests - particularly when I want to use triplets.
Sometimes rests (short) do help with visualization.
Regards.
In reply to Rests and notes by xavierjazz
Thanks. Hopefully I will be back to report.