Как добавить иную динамику и как определить трели ?

• Сен 10, 2018 - 20:49

Здравствуйте.
Во вложении - набранная мной соната в до-мажоре Гайдна.

Подскажите пожалуйста, как:

  1. Добавить динамику которой нет в имеющихся ?
    Такт №35 необходимо вместо меццо-форте (mf) проставить мено-форте (menof).

  2. Как определить звучание трелей ?
    У Гайдна в этой сонате определены две трели:
    а) фа-соль-фа-соль-фа-ми 2 октавы (см. 7-й такт);
    б) ля-си-ля-соль-ля 1-й октавы (см. 20-й такт).

Спасибо.

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Я отвечу на английском и русском языках, если это поможет прояснить мой ответ. Я едва могу читать по-русски, поэтому я использую переводчика.

  1. Чтобы отредактировать динамику, чтобы сказать что-то вроде meno f, дважды щелкните по f, чтобы он находился в режиме редактирования, и введите слово meno перед f. Он не изменит громкость, вам нужно будет изменить скорость в инспекторе, если вы хотите, чтобы он был другим объемом, чем f.

2a & 2b. Воспроизведение трелей происходит только одним способом в MuseScore. Если вы хотите mordent, prall или что-то подобное, посмотрите в расширенные палитры. Чтобы найти их, нажмите кнопку «Основные» в нижней части палитр и выберите «Дополнительно». На многих палитрах будет отображаться больше палитр и больше опций.

Поскольку я не видел счет, который вы копируете, я также дам вам знать, что вы можете применять триальные линии в палитре «Линии» в палитре «Дополнительно». Затем вы можете применить acciedental (например, #) к трели, но это не повлияет на воспроизведение.

Пожалуйста, не стесняйтесь спрашивать больше, если я не понимаю.

I will answer in both English and Russian in case it helps to clarify my answer. I can barely read Russian so I use a translator.

  1. To edit a dynamic to say something like meno f, double click the f so it is in edit mode and type the word meno before the f. It will not change the volume, you will need to change the velocity in the inspector if you want it a different volume than f.

2a & 2b. Playback of trills only happens one way in MuseScore. If you want a mordent, prall or something similar then look in the advanced palettes. To find them, click the word Basic at the bottom of the palettes and select Advanced. This will show more palettes and more options in many of the palettes.

Since I have not seen the score you are copying from I will also let you know that you can apply trill lines from the Lines palette in the Advanced palettes. You can then apply an acciedental (like a #) to the trill, but it will not affect playback.

Please do not hesitate to ask more if I am not clear.

Я забыл упомянуть, что создание дуплексов для двух восьмых нот или четырехместных клавиш для 32-й ноты в 2/4 раза совершенно не нужно. Я знаю, что есть еще одна программа, которая требует тупочек для каждой заметки меньше четверти ноты. Если вы не видите шрифт, написанный в баллах, нет необходимости делать его в MuseScore. Вы сделали это сложнее, чем необходимо, чтобы расшифровать счет, который вы приложили. Хорошая часть состоит в том, что воспроизведение в обоих случаях одинаково.

I forgot to mention that creating duplets for two eighth notes or quadruplets for 32nd notes in 2/4 time is totally unnecessary. I know there is another program that requires tuplets for every note smaller than a quarter note. If you do not see a tuplet written in a score, it is not necessary to make one in MuseScore. You have made it more difficult than necessary to transcribe the score you have attached. The good part is that playback is identical in both cases.

In reply to by mike320

Thank you for the advice, but there is a small nuance ... I'm not a musician and the level of my musical literacy is basic.
Before that, I had never used a scorewriters-software. I found MuseScore the day before the application here on the forum. I wrote down the music score about 5-6 hours in passing studying the program and many reading the user manuals on the program's website (on russian and english).
Unfortunately, the level of my musical literacy leaves much to be desired, for example, for a long time I could not understand why in the 8th takt 9/16 is obtained [hand-face].
Nevertheless, I'm delighted with the convenience and clarity of the musescore - the developers are great!

P.S.
I needed scorewriters-software so that I could print my son's musicscore on paper - in my the small town this author simply does not exist in the bookstore. The impetus was the terrible state of the book, which the son took at the music school.

P.P.S.
Thank you again for the excellent software !

In reply to by Дмитрий Михайлов 2

I'm not a developer of the program, but I know there are some Russians who work for MuseScore watching this forum and they would no doubt say your welcome for the software and please let them know if there is a way to make it better.

I guess what you are talking about in measure 8 (you used the German word takt) is the triplet (the 3 16th notes with a 3 under them). This is a situation where using a tuplet is necessary. You are obviously very smart, because I see a lot of questions about how you make the rhythm you made in that measure. You have a triplet inside of a duplet which causes a lot of people problems.

You seem to be a very dedicated father to do this for his son, and I suspect you will need to use MuseScore some more for him. As you have seen, questions are welcome. Your son can be a valuable tool in learning about music, so do not hesitate to learn from him. This can only improve your experience with MuseScore and enable you to help him better, not to mention that it can make your relationship closer as you show him you have respect for his knowledge.

In reply to by mike320

There are a couple of questions I did not find answers to in the documentation:

  1. Is it possible to render trills, only for printing, in a separate place on the sheet?

  2. Is it possible to assign a fast hotkey for the last command or for the selected command? (I put the articulations: click on the note you want -> mouse left on the panel -> click on the stroke, or else: the same with the placement of the fingering. Can not select several notes at once with the Ctrl+click and apply the desired action to them)

  3. Oh yes: I put an empty frame at the end and now I can not delete :( How to do this? (Del and Ctrl+Del does not work)

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In reply to by Дмитрий Михайлов 2

  1. ...render trills...in a separate place on the sheet? Do you mean not attached to a note but rather in a staff text box? If this is what you mean, then create a staff text and press F2 (or click the fancy looking "a" with a box around it), click the Musical Symbols tab and then click "Common ornaments." You can then double click the "tr" and it will be in the staff text. You can move the text box anywhere you want to from there. I advise that you start by putting as close to the final position as possible.

  2. There are shortcuts for several commands. They are listed under the menu Edit->Preferences... in the shortcuts tab. You can assign shortcuts to most of the commands, but some currently don't do anything.

  3. To delete the frame, click it and press the Delete key and it will be deleted.

In reply to by Дмитрий Михайлов 2

Use the image capture tool. The icon is near the top and looks like a camera

image capture icon.PNG

Right click the area selected using the tool and you can save it, preferably as an .PNG file. You can then right click inside of a frame and choose Insert Picture and add the picture you saved inside of the frame.

You can actually use the same tool you used to take the picture you attached already.

In reply to by Дмитрий Михайлов 2

Inserting a picture is the best way to put a staff in an odd spot on the music sheet. You might be able to use a complicated system of frames and hidden staves and small staves to do this, but the picture is far easier. The staff you are showing is not actually a part of the score to be played back, but rather a guide to the musician of either the correct way to play a symbol or an alternate way the measure is written in another source.

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