Two-Measure Repeat Sign

In the "Repeat" palette there is a one-measure repeat--slash with two dots--from Berkeley notation. It would be great to have the two-measure repeat--two slashes with two dots spanning two bars--but also to have the numbering correct, unlike Finale.

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Two or more Measure Repeat Sign

I think this is so important. Include the ability to decide the number of bars.

Regards.

Pile on!!!! We need a Two or more Measure Repeat Sign

I wholeheartedly agree a 2 (or more, the number must be a variable) measure repeat sign. This is extreamly common and needs to be part of the palate or at least available somewhere.
Thanks,

I Need It !

Many of the 'show tune' kinds of scores have a lot of multi-measure repeats or rests. I can recall seeing a 32 measure rest in one, and a 16 measure repeat in another. This is a feature I really need and will use often.

Multi measure rests are

Multi measure rests are already supported. But surely for a 16 bar repeat, you'd use regular repeat bars, not a special and entirely unorthodox 16-bar-reat symbol?

16 bar rest

In a quick look, I found a 24 measure rest (guitar book for "Little Shop of Horrors", #5, "You Never Know"). It is an enlongated whole note rest with the number '24' written above it. Followed by a 16 measure rest (written the same as the 24), followed by a 4, then an 8, then a repeated 4, and another repeated 4. I'll look for an example of multi repeats later. This is not unusual in show tunes where the music has to accomodate onstage dialogue and action. The notation used saves a lot of real estate in the book, and some page turning. It is useful, even if ugly.

I've seen 2... pretty sure

I've seen 2... pretty sure I've seen 4... and I think I may have even heard of 8 or something... so it'd be good to be able to choose any number.

yes but how???

the question is How to do this?
Anyone know?

Actually, in a quick google

Actually, in a quick google search, it doesn't seem to show an example of any more than 2-bar repeat... so maybe I just imagined I saw them...

Anyway... I just created one now using a caesura and two dot symbols. You could do that and then hide the notes/rests to make it look correct. Temporary fix anyway :)

Edit: Actually, I just found somebody talking about how to do a 4-bar one on finale, so I guess it is around. See picture. NOTE: the directions are for finale, not musescore.

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Thanks I'll give it a shot.

Thanks I'll give it a shot.

Very good

There it is. There are old threads asking for this very thing, but this is the first example I can remember being posted.

I also use the 2 bar sign in a bar and use a number over the graphic representing how many previous bars to repeat.

Workaround (sorry, not for

Workaround (sorry, not for everyone):

Empty two measures, set rests to invisible.
Export file as pdf.
Import in InDesign (or any other layout program capable of editing pdfs).
Type "alt+q" in MAESTRO font at the desired position.
Export as new pdf.
Needs a perfect score in MuseScore, or one has to repeat those steps endlessly...

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If you save the repeat sign

If you save the repeat sign as SVG or PNG you can drag the image file into MuseScore and skip the"endless steps" through PDF and InDesign.

Yes, that's true! I haven't

Yes, that's true!
I haven't thought about that because I export my scores to InDesign nevertheless. I can't use the bad kerning that Muse produces. Btw - is there a solution in sight?

Greetings

Which kerning issue ?

Which kerning issue ?

The kerning issue should be

The kerning issue should be fixed in MuseScore 2.0 when we switch to Qt 4.7. At the time of the bug report I didn't notice it (since it is not noticeable on screen in Windows), but the bad kerning is noticeably when you print.

Here is the bug report: http://musescore.org/en/node/6834

If you have a font with the

If you have a font with the sign, it's more convenient using it directly in MuseScore.
Make everything in the measure invisible, add a text, choose the font and the right character and position it with drag and drop.

This doesn't work for me.

This doesn't work for me. Typing alt+q gives no output at all. That's why I had the idea with the pdf export.
(OSX10.4.11, G5)

It works for me on Windows

It works for me on Windows (via Copy and Paste). See attached (obviously the attached file will only show the double repeat character if you have the Maestro font that comes with Finale).

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Copy and paste from a text

Copy and paste from a text editor doesn't work for me either...
But it works from your file ;-)

The Maestro font isn't

The Maestro font isn't Unicode compatible, which I noticed causes problems even on Windows (A lot has changed in personal computing (for the better) since the late 1980s, early 1990s. Unfortunately some parts of Finale haven't been updated yet). I had to insert the symbol into Microsoft Word, copy and paste the symbol into the search box in Firefox (which I suspect converted it to Unicode encoding), then copy and paste it into MuseScore.

Feature request

I created a feature request #10220: Add a two measure repeat sign

2 bar repeat symbol

A 2 bar repeat symbol is very useful and an n bar repeat symbol may be useful sometimes.

n bar

This would be very useful.

symbols ok; numbering is wrong

This is one of those common-use anomalies like calling the vibrato bar on a guitar a "tremolo" bar. The multi-measure repeat was standardized by Berkeley. The slashes and span indicate the number of measures of rest, but the numeral above the symbols are supposed to enumerate the repetitions, not reiterate now many measures in the repeat. Finale--and most publishers--do this wrong.

Right or wrong

I have found this useful in the past. I found this in Alfred's Essential Dictionary of Notation (see attachment). I take it to mean the repeat barlines.

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That may be so but you can't

That may be so but you can't do either with Musescore.

Work around

The only work around I have found is to add System Text and move the text over the repeat measure sign. It would be nice if there were a multi-measure repeat that had editable text so you could put in the number of measures for the repeat.

Please implement this

Please implement this feature, it's very important and opened too long... I'm missing it almost every time when I'm transcribing music based on few times repeating 2-4 measures long riffs.

I agree, it needs to be

I agree, it needs to be there. Meanwhile, if you're not familiar with "slash notation", you might consider that as a workaround - and look at the Plugins repository to find a utility that can create this automatically. As a person who reads and plays this stuff for a living, I can tell you that if you use slash notation and the word "simile", that means exactly the same thing, and is actually probably more familiar to most of us. The two-measure repeat sign, is just another way of saying the same thing.

Thanks Marc for your

Thanks Marc for your suggestion and the Plugin!

Two Measure Repeat Cosmetic Work-Around

MuseScore definately needs a tool that performs a Two Measure Repeat function correctly.
I have in the interim created a cosmetic work-around that is notationally correct and looks pretty good too, however it is non-functional as a repeat mechanism. The measures are counted correctly but during playback the measures are totally silent (interpretted as rests if you will).
I have attached a sample of my work-around.
I hope you can use it!

If you have any questions, comments or concerns please contact me at Stephencab@MSN.Com.

Thanks,
Best Regards,
Steve C

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Workaround no longer working around

Hi -

Please see my comments in the bug report for this issue (http://musescore.org/en/node/10220). The workaround above has stopped working.

I've also added a few examples from contemporary musical scores. This symbol is used all the time and not having it is really a problem.

Thanks

indeed...

...this is a most necessary inclusion. I've started to use MuseScore a few weeks ago, and it's the first thing I was looking for on the forum here. Thanks to Stephencab for the workaround.

Two-Measure Repeat Sign

I completely agree with the request to add the two-measure repeat sign. It saves paper, and it's very useful throughout repetitive music. I have resorted for now to just adding the new measures and copy/pasting them in, which is exhausting but still worth it because the music flows the same. It'd be so much easier just to have a two-measure repeat sign we could insert. It would make it both prettier and faster!

Absolutely Necessary

I agree that this is needed.
As a drummer, this is the most frustrating problem I have with the software.
The workaround is clever, but completely impracticable for anything more than two or three iterations.
And just copy-pasting makes a chart very difficult to read, particularly for drummers.

Just to keep my previous wish

Just to keep my previous wish current, I would like it to be a "X" number of bar repeat because sometimes a 4 bar is useful to me.

Yes please! I'm new to

Yes please!

I'm new to Musescore and was looking for how to add a 2 bar repeat symbol and came across this thread, so just another vote from me.

Matt

Thanks for the great software!

for the two mesure repeat

for the two mesure repeat sign, I know someone has been abele to make it in musescore (with simple repeat sign) .. .but I don't find where anymore ... :(

edit : it was on that page (oups) : http://musescore.org/sites/musescore.org/files/Two%20Measure%20Repeat%20...

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