New Instruments for MuseSounds in 4.X

• Nov 2, 2022 - 15:08

I'd like to see if we can get a set of standards for Muse Sounds and let the community contribute, especially for folks looking for niche instruments- like me. Among the obviously missing instruments for Muse Sounds are...

  • Alto Clarinet
  • Bass Oboe
  • Sarrusophones (SATBC)
  • Piccolo Trumpet
  • Bass Trumpet
  • Soprano Trombone
  • Alto Trombone
  • Tenor Trombone
  • Contrabass Trombone
  • Euphonium
  • Ocarina (SATBC)
  • Panflute
  • Pipe Organ (this instrument should have several sounds to it, including the Vox Humana)
  • Handbells

What other instruments would people like to see? Let's collect ideas for Muse Sounds in this thread... Do note that according to Marc Sabatella, the plan is to publish a document describing how to create Muse Sounds, and how to create software to use them, as well as to promote third party development.

On GitHub, someone also suggested these...

  • Lute
  • Theorbo
  • Recorders (SATB)
  • Natural Horn
  • Violas da Gamba
  • Baroque strings (solo and sections)

On Discord, someone claimed they had access to several chinese traditional gongs, as well as these other instruments...

  • Ondes Martenot
  • Bass Oboe
  • Oboe d'Amore,
  • Tenor Bassoon
  • Waterphone
  • Toy Piano
  • Morin Khuur
  • Erhu
  • Contrabass Clarinet
  • Sopranino Sax
  • Duduk
  • Hulusi
  • Minimoog
  • Vibraphone
  • Glockenspiel
  • Marimba
  • Suzuki Andes
  • Sopranino Recorder
  • Gemshorn
  • Theremin
  • Udu
  • Vibraslap
  • Contrabass Guitar
  • Harmonium

Any further thoughts?


Comments

All of the instruments in a British Brass Band. At the moment there are only Tuba, Bass Trombone and Trombone. Adding Soprano Cornet, Cornet, Flugel Horn, Tenor Horn, Baritone and Euphonium would be excellent.

In reply to by michael_wolter

Totally agree. I have tried working the new sound fonts into brass band scores and not been able to get anything even close to as good as the basic sound fonts. The "orchestral brass" sounds are also significantly quieter (perhaps more subtle) and just get lost in the mix with the basic instruments.

I agree. As someone who regularly writes music for Organ and Handbells to be used professionally and panflute and ocarina for myself, I think these would be magnificent additions. It has always been a struggle to listen through either handbell or organ pieces I am working on without physically playing them, as they both have unique complexities that the likes of Midi will never understand. Being able to work with either official or community made muse sounds for these instruments would be amazing!

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ADD EUPHONIUM THERE HAVE BEEN NO EUPHONIUMS IN THE PAST 3 MUSESCORES, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT AND SO MANY OTHERS WOULD TOO!!!!!

I personally was composing something using the Shakuhachi, but with the new version it is now missing, it would be great to have it back ç__ç

In reply to by spemeaeterna3

After a more in-depth understanding of the 4.0 Version, I discovered it is still possible to use the old instruments that were present in the previous version, but getting the remake (if the soundfont was already present) or the addition of the soundfont for all the Instruments that were mentioned in your post is still a goal worth pursuing

Concerning the early music instruments, I have been working on a very large collection of Baroque SoundFonts, some of which are originals from the Bate Collection of Oxford University, others from my own which I have amassed over the past several years. I was working on it before version 4 was released, but I believe it will be a rather impressive library. It will include the instruments you listed, among others. I don't know when it will be complete, as I am rather busy in my own life. Hopefully, it will be completed by spring.

Some other obscure instruments / possible sounds id love to see

Hecklephone for Wagner Operas

Garklein Recorder

Keyboard Glockenspiel (used by Handel and Mozart)... could possibly be made by adding a loop on the glockenspiel sound in polyphone

Bongang tuned gongs from Gamelan

Zheng mouth organ

Octobass

Voiceflute, Recorder in D

How about a Sax Section / Clarinets Tutti / Clarinet + Bassoon?

In reply to by songwriter X

Yes, I would love a Keyboard Glockenspiel sound, though I expect that will be very hard cause I heard that there's only like 1 that has survived or some really low number like that. Mozart's The Magic Flute has 3 such glockenspiels in the instrumentation.

Hi guys, the new sound fonts in Muse Hub are nice, but I don't find electric guitar, electric bass and drum set there ? For rock music they would be indispensable. Are they coming soon or there is no plan for them?

So far, they have everything needed for a typical orchestra. Only adding a few instruments would make it complete for concert band:
-Euphonium
-Cornet
Also, marching percussion, and alongside that it would be cool to get sounds for marching instruments, like:
-Mellophone
-Baritone (could just be euphonium)
A lot of people want some solid guitar sounds, too, and that could be really cool
-Guitar
-Electric Guitar
-Bass
And then one big one, not a new instrument I guess, but using sounds from a range of different instruments.
-Basic Musescore sounds had a 'Percussion' instrument with a bunch of different sounds. It would be cool if we could do that in MS4 with the 'percussion' instrument, and instead of saying 'change instrument', its just a bunch of the percussion sounds in one instrument. Basically Auxiliary percussion. It's used in concert band, marching band, orchestra, etc... I hope that makes sense.

The score for "Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan" has several unconventional instruments:
* Penny Whistle
* Blaster Beam
* Fender Rhodes
* Synthesizers: ARP 2600, CS80, Jupiter 8, Serge
* Aluminophone
* Death knell
* Metal Angklung
* Rub rods
* Trans celeste
* Tubophone
* Plastic pipes
* Sizzle cymbal
* Bull's roar
* Korean wood slapper
* Waterphone

In reply to by Tago_Scores

Hi
We have sampled a new (old) instrument: Castilian Dulzaina. Some examples:

Playing popular songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32zqOjlB7L0
Playing Bach melodies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AwyOTEtSNE

We have created a new soundfont with Polyphone, and we would like to add it to the "Ms Basic.sf3" soundfont database with a bank and program number assignation. Would anyone help us to know how should we proceed?

Thanks

In reply to by bardantjean-x1

Yes, for something like Schubert's Trout Quintet, this would be nice. I mean, I'm currently using just the MS Basic one cause I hardly ever notice the double bass anyway, but still, why wouldn't you record a solo double bass if you record section and solo of all the other string instruments?

Marching snare
Marching basses
Marching tenors
Marching cymbals
Mellophone
Flugal Horn
Finger cymbals

More variety in the axillary percussion in general to be honest.

As a newcomer, I'm impressed by the instrument library already, but I suppose I'll throw in a few suggestions. What about a gittern ( with three to five courses)? Also, the musical saw is neat, but we're lacking more bowed metallophones. A nail violin and waterphone would be a fine addition, I think, and I'm not the first to ask for the latter. As a last thought, what about including the citole, too?

There is also a lack of ethnic music instruments, such as buzuki, duduk, tar, kamancha, naghara, dhol, tabla, darbuka, saz, mandoline

Hi, New here!

Really appreciate all the work that went into version 4 and all the new instruments. Would really love to have a steel drum band, I have a calypso piece needing one! Probably too much to ask though.

Another request would be a Hang Drum.

Thanks so much

You're lucky - for reason unknown - I can no longer get ANY option to change the AudioFX....
.... please, how is one meant to access Musesounds?.... and to leave such as default?
Thank you.

Hi

I would like, if possible, to add a new woodwind instrument whose name is dulzaina (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulzaina or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulzaina for english version). It is mainly used for folklore. As it is a non-well know instrument let me give some examples:
- Folk example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37etSzYM3g
- Non folk example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AwyOTEtSNE

There are several "minor" versions: Valencian, Castilian, Aragonese, catalan with different transpositions ( Augmented fifth, ... )

Kind Regards

All great ideas! I definitely could use alto clarinet, heckelphone (or bass oboe), tenor tuba (maybe like Wagner Tubas?), recorders, harmonium, and pipe organ!

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