Be able to write in no time signature

• May 1, 2025 - 22:18

i write sometimes with no time signature in sections. Would love to be able to write with open bars/no time signature at times during a piece.


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With a bit of an extra effort this is possible, set the staff to not show the time signature and yet the measures' properties to have irregular durations that fits your needs. Also disable measure numbers in the style settings or measure properties

In reply to by barrychab

So, i guess i dont understand. what you did is great... but... so my piece starts out with a very long, no time signature measure, nearly a page. i can do that, no problem but then how do i turn back on time signatures from there. Seems to be all or nothing for me.

In reply to by barrychab

Always better to include your score rather than an image. That said ...

Here you go. Obviously, I didn't know what notes to use in your 5/4 measures, so I just filled in some scales.

Con Fuoco.mscz

Take a close look at it and see that it's what you wanted.

Then click View / Show and re-check Show invisible and Mark irregular measures. Those two, plus inspecting the Measure properties, should identify how to do it. If it doesn't, ask again.

It can be emulated as others explain, but I'd still find it very useful to have it explicitly supported as an option in the time signature menu. It's really the only feature in Dorico that I wish Musescore had :)

That said, I understand it's probably not the most important feature to add, and it might be difficult to implement.

The comments describe many tricks that you can use to get that effect. But what is really needed is a Cadenza Mode, where there is no time signature at all, just notes. You can have an irregular number of notes in Cadenza Mode, or even tuplets within the cadenza that can overlap metered measures. In Cadenza Mode, you can even vary the tempo and intensity as in virtuoso playings. And, because of the advent of AI, you can even write a cadenza that the software can improvise, just like in the old days when virtuosos used to improvise those parts.

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