creating tempo text

• Sep 3, 2010 - 21:52

I am trying to create a tempo text with Toledo SF font. First I set the font with
Style – Edit Text Styles, then selecting ‘Dynamics’, and after choosing Toledo SF –
OK (Apply), I go to the note where I want place this tempo (according to the handbook), select that note and then choose create – text – tempo and write ‘Andante moderato’
in the box on the right of the pop-up window. To my surprise I cannot change the font
from Times New Roman (which is default) into Toledo SF whatever I am trying.
Can somebody help me please?

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• Sep 4, 2010 - 04:29

For at least some of the elements they’re intended to control, Text Styles don’t operate as intended. (I have the same problem you describe with fingering; Times New Roman isn’t acceptable to me, and editing the text style for fingering to a different typeface and point size has no effect.)

The workaround I use is to create the text (whether tempo, staff text, fingering, etc.) and then modify it. You should be able to do this in either of two ways: (1) right-click on the text and choose Text Properties, or (2) double-click on the text (which will make it editable), select some text, and then make the formatting changes you want in the text toolbar that will have popped up at the bottom of your screen when you double-clicked.

It can be tedious to do this manually to every occurrence of the text whose formatting you want to alter, but I don’t know of any other way at present. While I recall that the problem with functionality of Text Styles is a known issue, I’m not certain of that (nor of when a real fix might be expected).

Oh BTW -- if Text Styles did work as intended for the purpose you described, you would want to modify the style for Tempo rather than Dynamics.

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• Sep 4, 2010 - 14:30

I should have confirmed that it is in fact a "known issue"; now that I've searched on "text styles," I see these two related threads from just last month. (I even commented on the priority status in one of them, but only vaguely remembered it.)

http://musescore.org/en/node/6755
http://musescore.org/en/node/6758

I do think it would be better (i.e., more visible) if you'd started this query in the Support and Bugs area rather than General Discussion, because it's possible (though I really don't know) that the developers assign priority to bugs based on how many people are believed to be affected by it and/or how vocal they are.

It does seem (from my search on the term) that many people know of this bug; apparently it even has consequences to the formatting of lyrics for those who are scoring vocal music. It's interesting that attention has been given to the problem of Text Styles having no effect on text that was already created -- as though they do work as intended on text created after the style was modified. For some text elements, at least, that's not true! With fingerings (as I mentioned above), for instance, modifying a Text Style has no effect either on existing fingering text or on yet-to-be-created fingerings.

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• Sep 4, 2010 - 18:05

It's indeed tedious to change the text properties for each text. But you can change it for one text and "apply to all text of the same type (tempo text, chornames etc...). See the checkbox in a text properties dialog.

Regarding Text Styles, the main problem for developers is to know what users expect. Let me give you and example.

  1. You enter a couple of tempo text.
  2. You select the first one and make some changes, for example you put the last two letters at a bigger font size, and a different font.
  3. Then you go to Text style->Tempo text and you choose another font and another size for this text style.
    What do you expect ?
    • The text style overrides all your previous changes?
    • The text style changes only on the text you didn't "edited"
    • The text style does not apply if you edited at least one tempo text properties

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