Transpose only a section of the score - First time user
I'm a first-time user. I'm using 2.0 Beta.
If I highlight one section (a verse) of my score and click Notes/Transpose and select the key, it transposes the whole score, not just the particular bars I highlighted.
I entered the sheet music for one verse, copied it four times, and want to change each of the verses into a different key.
What am I doing wrong?
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I seem to remember that had been fixed in a later nightly build, but may be wrong on this...
In reply to I seem to remember that had by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for replying. I don't think you can be right because I only downloaded the software about two days ago, so I will have the latest version.
Any idea how I can make what I want happen?
In reply to Thanks for replying. I don't by ColinT
When you downloaded is irrelevant, what you download is. You reported the issue with MuseScore 2.0 Beta (not sure whether 1 or 2, you didn't mention, I assume the latter though), that is from before Christmas. Try a nightly build to see whether it is fixed, see http://musescore.org/en/download#Nightly-versions
In reply to When you downloaded is by Jojo-Schmitz
Oh, thank you. I didn't know about nightly builds. (I think I did say it was 2.0 Beta in my question).
In reply to Oh, thank you. I didn't know by ColinT
(yes, you said 2.0 Beta, but not whether Beta 1 from August or Beta 2 from December)
Thanks for reporting this bug Colin. I tried to reproduce this bug with a MuseScore nightly build but I can't so it seems to be fixed. So with that we can confirm Jojo's first comment.
Fyi The nightly builds are MuseScore packages which are made available from the very latest code. Not sure that makes it clear but if you want to check out the nightly build, you can get it from http://musescore.org/en/download#Nightly-versions
Welcome on board!
In reply to Thanks for reporting this bug by Thomas
Thank you.
Colin
In reply to Thanks for reporting this bug by Thomas
I tried downloading the most recent nightly build. With MuseScore 2.0 Beta, to select a bar I just clicked and held over the bar, then shift/click (if I remember) to the bar I want to highlight to. With the monthly build, if I click and hold a menu appears: Stave (pianoroll editor, stave properties, split stave), Bar (paste, delete, insert one bar, bar properties, object debugger). I am new, so I may not be remembering correctly how I higlighted all of a selection of bars previously, or the procedure may be different in the nightly builds version. How can I select a group of bars, including the guitar chord names, lyrics and notes on two staves? It seemed easy when I did it a few days ago.
In reply to I tried downloading the most by ColinT
Click first bar, shift click last - that is indeed how you select a range of bars. Try again :-)
In reply to Click first bar, shift click by Marc Sabatella
I couldn't get that to work.
I did manage to click a note and shit click another note, so I made it work in the end, but I couldn't manage it with clicking the bars any more.
Thank you.
In reply to I couldn't get that to by ColinT
Sometimes it is a bit difficult to select a bar - other symbols get selected and you can't see what is what. Scrolling in and making the score larger usually helps.
In reply to Sometimes it is a bit by xavierjazz
You're right I'm sure. What am I aiming to click in order to select a bar? I have guitar chord names, treble and bass cleff and lyrics. Am I clicking on a stave (but that's where the notes and rests are)? Between the staves (but that's where the lyrics are)? Any advice of where I'm trying to hit?!
In reply to You're right I'm sure. What by ColinT
Into the bar, at some empty spot.
In reply to Into the bar, at some empty by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm using a touch screen and my bars are full of voices, lyrics and chord names so it feels too difficult to select a bar without selecting something or other else instead.
If I try zooming in on the bar to make more space to click, it seems to jump to move the bar to somewhere else on the page, or even the previous page. Also if I zoom in and click I then loose that selection when I try to drag to move to another bar and shift click. If I zoom out so that both start and finish bars of the desired selection are in view simultaneously it hightens the problem selecting a bar without selecting something inside the bar instead.
I've not mastered this.
JoJo, when you say 'into the bar', what do you mean? On a stave within the bar? Between the two staves? They've all got other selectable things there.
In reply to I'm using a touch screen and by ColinT
You are supposed to click an empty spot on the staff. Zooming in shouldn't jump unnecessarily, but on the other hand, it can't read your mind either about what bar you are interested in, and obviously, the result of zooming in is that bars will be in different palces on the screen (further apart), so sometimes it may have to jump to keep the bar it *thinks* you care about on screen. Also, be aware there are different ways of zooming, and they can behave differently, so if you aren't liking one behavior, try another method. There is the Zoom drop down menu in the toolbar, there is the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+"+", and there is Ctrl+(mouse wheel).
Anyhow, none of this should actually matter - you don't *have* to find an empty spot to click. Click then Shift+click works just as well clickings notes rather than empty spots in bars. So click the first note of the first bar, Shift+click the last note of the last bar. Or, as I said, use the standard keyboard shortcuts.
In reply to I couldn't get that to by ColinT
You can also use the standard keybaord shortcuts for selection - Shift+right/left to extend a selection one "character" (note) at a time, Ctrl+Shift+right/left to extend a "word" (measure) at a time, etc.
In reply to You can also use the standard by Marc Sabatella
This question is related some what. Let's say I have a score with twelve staves and I want to transpose all but the third stave. How is that done easily. After reading the Handbook it seams I have to select all the staves individually. Or maybe there is a different way. It seams to me a "Reverse Selection" would make it easy.
In reply to This question is related some by rwmol
Select all - transpose.
Select single stave - re-transpose.
In reply to This question is related some by rwmol
The suggestion above should indeed work. Or, first select staves 1-2, transpose them, then 4-N.
But I'm scratching my head trying to image what musical situation would lead to this need. Did you perhaps already transpose the third staff but forgot to transpose the others, and now you are trying to correct that error? If so, then this would indeed be how to do it. But I have a feeling whatever it is you are actually trying to do, there might be a more straightforward answer (eg, simply using the built in "Concert Pitch" facility if your reason for transposing is just the ordinary instrument sort).
In reply to The suggestion above should by Marc Sabatella
I knew I would get a response from the silly example. Actually, it's a score that has on independent save that's a bass line. I want to transpose it to various instrument but leave the bass line in its key. The answer provided works even-though in requires two transpositions.
In reply to I knew I would get a response by rwmol
But that's what I mean when I say, why not just press the Concert Pitch button and have everything done automatically? No Transposition at all is better than two, no?
In reply to But that's what I mean when I by Marc Sabatella
I don't quite understand that process but I will give it a try. You're right one is better than two.
In reply to I don't quite understand that by rwmol
No, *zero* transpositions if you use Concert Pitch. So this is why I said it would help if you described in more detsail what you are actually trying to do - ideally, posting the score you are having problems with. But in general, if you have a score for, say, trumept, alto sax, and bass, you would *never* need to transpose anything just to get the trumept and alto sax to display properly. You'd simly press the Concert Pitch button and everything happens automatically. Concert Pitch on = everything displays at sounding pitch; Concert Pitch off = everything displays at written pitch. All handled automatically.
In reply to No, *zero* transpositions if by Marc Sabatella
I understand that. It certainly applies if you have all the instruments on one score. I want to cut down on the number of pages. If my score has only two instrument, piano and bass, that score will go to the "C" instrument gig book. I will then just transpose the "C" instrument part to each individual horn leaving the bass at concert pitch. I know, seems like a lot of work but just the way I want it. After all, I'm retired with lots of time on my hands. I get a lot of enjoyment out of this type of thing.
In reply to I understand that. It by rwmol
Ah yes, I do understand that, and sometimes produce my lead sheets much the same way. But then, the bass staff is normally on the bottom, so it doesn't take two separate transpose operations. Your original post made it seem you had one staff in the middle of the score that wouldn't be tranposed.
I've been experimenting with transposing lead sheets by changing the instrument in staff properties rather than actually transposing. The advantage is, I only need to save one copy of the score to have both concert & Bb versions. But I lose the ability to have my chords spelled differently (eg, I might want B7 in concert pitch but Db7 rather than C#7 in the Bb chart if it's acting as a tritone substitution). Some day I guess I will try to implement separate spellings.
Something else worth trying is having separate staves and hiding the ones that aren't relevant using the Instruments dialog. That would at least allow me to keep concert, Bb, and Eb versions of lead sheets in one file. Hmm, or have those be *parts*, except then I'd have to apply the line breaks and other formatting multiple times. Lots of possible ways to go about this, each with compromises.