Drumset notatio and tripelet beams
I am learning beam editing and tripletes in drum notaion and it seems a bit touchy. I think what I learned today over lunch is I need to be very careful as to where I pick a note, and there are subtlties with double clicking.
So if there are any words of wisdom out there or previous posts or tutorials on the subject i would love to know about them.
In short I am entering 16th note triplets as a schuffle pattern in drum set notation. The system seems to be, enter eigth notes, cntrl 3 to get 16th tripelets, add a 16th on the "let" and fix the beam by clicking the middle rest and double clicking the beam editor.
Hope any of this makes sense,
ST
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Well, sixteenth triplets are definitely created by first selecting eighth note as the duration then pressin Ctrl+3, but I don't understand what you mean after that. I guess maybe you want a sixteenth following by a sixteenth rest followed by another sixteenth? If so, then yes, connecting the beam over the rest could possibly make sense. Seems it would be easier - both to enter and to read - to just enter the first note as an eighth. But maybe I'm not understanding. Posting the score you are having problems with is always a good idea when asking for help.
In reply to Well, sixteenth triplets are by Marc Sabatella
Yes I think you understand my input, and I seem to be getting it put together. I will have to learn how to attach my "score" (exercises only for now). I still have difficulty with the software assuming ties on the triplets, i.e. they attch to the next measure when I do not want them that way and they flip stems upward for the origianally down stem bass notes.
I am new to this and a dinosaur in tech terms, I've been out of it for 30 yeas and am trying to grapple my way back.
Thank You for your help,
ST
In reply to Yes I think you understand my by Scott Trevethan
To attach a score, use the "File attachments" link right below where ypu type a post or reply.
I don't understand what you mean about ties; they are created in only two cases: 1) if youbexplicitly press the tie button or 2) if you enter a note that does not fit in the current measure (eg, a half note on beat 4 of a 4/4 measure is tied across the bar as the ordinary rules of music notation demand). There is nothing special about triplets in that regard. Nor do ties ever flip stems. So something else must be going on here.
In reply to To attach a score, use the by Marc Sabatella
Ah hah! one more clue to my mistakes, many thanks again.
I was likely misreading eigth rests that should have only been 16 th rests. I will get there.
The stem flip thing is likely my difficulty with note input. I did read the manual but one quick scan only. A testament to the software's user friendlyness. there does not seem to be a lot of detail on drum notation, but it does work.
I need to also input 1/4 notes as an upper (snare) line & cym / h.h., and as I recall there is a specific method to add notes to an existing stem, or superimposed time wise for the bass line test.mscz . It was only one quick scan. When I put the 1/4 notes in the measure increases by 1/4 and ties to the next measure.
I have attempted to insert one of my first exercises.
My appologies for my green-ness,
Many Thanks'
ST
In reply to Ah hah! one more clue to my by Scott Trevethan
Great, now I am looking at the same thing as you. So, can you describe *precisely* what you are trying to do?
I can guess maybe you are trying to change some note later in some measure - the last note of the second measure into a quarter note? That would explain why you get a tie - you can't add a quarter note there, it doesn't make musical sense. A quarter note cannot happen any time later than the last beat of the measure.
When you speak of adding notes to an existing "stem", it is import to be clear about whether you want to do it in the same *voice* or whether you really want a different voice. You can only notate something in one voice if the rhythms are identical. If you have a sixteenth note and q aurter note happening at the same time, by definition, that is sepoarate voices, normally notated with stems in *opposite* directions. See the section in the Handbook on Voices, although drum input is a bit unique, so do re-read that section as well.
Anyhow, if you can describe exactly what you are trying to do - which measure you want to look different, and how you want it to look instead - then we can help you see how to do it. But do start by reading up on Voices.
In reply to Ah hah! one more clue to my by Scott Trevethan
OK, I'll do some home work & get back.
likely late tonight.
Thanks again,
ST