Problem with rests

• Oct 30, 2015 - 05:39

I've looked around the forum and saw several queries about rests, but none quite matched my issue. I started entering a barbershop arrangement using the barbershop template (with an adjustment to the treble clef to be 8va as conventional). I entered a couple of measures using voices 1, 2, 3 and 4 for Tenor, Lead, Baritone and Bass. There are residual rests in the bass clef that seem to be associated with voice 1. They don't belong and I'd like them to not be there. I can mark them all invisible but that's a pain. Is the a way to enter the score so these phantom rests don't show up? I do wish to keep the voices separate so I can easily make part-dominant playback tracks.

I attached an example score.

One other observation--an A above middle C shows up as red in the score. The manual says this is because the note is outside the instrument range. This is clearly not the case for a chorus. Anyone know why this happens?

Thanks
Al H

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• Oct 30, 2015 - 06:07

Hi, looking at your score, I noticed that you are using all four voices in the two staves, that is not necessary, you can use voices 1 & 2 independently in both staves.
That is the reason you are getting the voice 1 rests in the bari and bass staves.
Replace them with voices 1 and 2 and your problem is solved.
(See attachment.)
Select all notes in voice 3, then click on voice 1 button top right.
Select all notes in voice 4, then click on voice 2 button top right.
This will change all to voice 1 & 2, leaving unwanted voice 3 & 4 rests.
select one of the rests, right click, scroll down to select, select all similar elements, then press delete to get rid of all rests.
I'll leave the other problem to those with more knowledge than I.

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• Oct 30, 2015 - 07:56

for the combined bari+bass staff you picked an unaltered bass 'instrument' and those notes are outside the range of a bass, up to C4/D4. You need to bump up the ranges to those of a bari, E4/F4.
Check how it is done for the closed score SATB templates, the S+A has the low range of alto and the high range of sopran, the T+B staff has the low range of bass and the high range of tenor.
Probably best you create yourself a barbershop template.

Oops, I see MuseScore comes with a barbershop template, and that does have the ranges wrong.

I've just now submitted a PR to get this fixed in the next version or MuseScre, see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/2269 and attached the proposed fix here.

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• Oct 30, 2015 - 14:59

Hi Jojo-

It is also conventional in barbershop for the treble clef to be 8vb as the lead/tenor sing an octave lower than written. Small point. I tried to add something to your PR but don't know what I'm doing in that regard and in any case it looked like the SW change was already made!

Thanks for your help.

Al

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