# How do I delete a single empty measure?

• Aug 21, 2016 - 12:00

I have one empty measure at the end of a piece.

How do I delete it?

(This isn't as simple as it looks...)

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In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

a) If I click on the space around the semi-breve rest then the measure becomes selected and then Ctl-Del works.

b) If I have the semi-breve rest selected then Ctl-Del does nothing.

As an average user I was expecting b) to delete the measure...

Brian

In reply to by BWernham

You want to delete a measure, so select a measure. If you want to delete a rest, select a rest. Note that voice 1 rests can't get deleted, note also that the rest from your picture is not a semi-breve rest, but a full measure rest. Looks similar, but isn't quite the same thing

In reply to by BWernham

select it and what the Status bar. It is not a whole or seme-breve rest, but a (full) measure rest. The difference is the alignment, full measure rests are centered to the measure, whole rests are left aligned. You can have a full measure rest in a 3/4 measure, but for a whole rest you need a measure of 4/4 or longer

In reply to by BWernham

It's a distinction that is often glossed over in beginning books on notation, but indeed, a semi-breve resta and a full measure rest *are* two different things, even though they look similar, and behave the same in 4/4 time. The different in how they look is the alignment, as stated: semi-breve rests are left aligned, full measure rests are centered. The difference in how they behave is meaningful only when in time signatures other than 4/4 (or, equivalently, 2/2, or 8/8, etc). A semi-breve rest (aka whole rest) always lasts ezactly as long as a semi-breve note (aka whole note), which is to say, four beats in x/4 time, 2 beats in x/2 time, etc. Thus, in 6/4 (for example), a semi-breve rest at the beginning of the measure takes only the first four beats, leaving two left to be taken up by a minim (aka half note) or whatever. Whereas a full measure rest would take the full six beats.

In reply to by BWernham

Well, it's the same length as eighth crotechets (quarter notes), so it would be eight beats in 8/4 time. In "modern-ish" practice (current notation of Renaissance music), I think you'd be more likely to see a breve in 4/2, where it would be only four beats (and a semi-breve two), but same idea.