insert measure with different time zone
I am trying to simply insert 2 measures of 4/4 into a piece that is 5/4 (and a few measures of 15/8). I want to insert two completely new measure into the piece and have it resume from the point of insertion. I can't even change the time signature for two bars at the moment without receiving the error messages "tuplet would cross measure" or "measure not empty" (when it clearly is). Is there anyway to simply insert two self-contained bars into a piece without affecting everything that follows?
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Welcome, see: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/measure-operations#insert
and https://musescore.org/en/handbook/time-signature#local-time-signatures
if that's what you are looking for
In reply to Welcome, see: by Shoichi
Thanks for you reply. But that doesn't help. I can insert a measure, but I can't change the time signature. I keep getting the message "tuplet would cross measure" (there are no tuplets in the bars around this bar, nor in the bar I want to insert). I can't change the local time signature either because I get the messages "tuplet would cross measure" and "measure is not empty" (even though it is empty). I just want to completely insert two measures with a different key signature into a piece, without having it affect anything in the rest of the piece.
It sounds to me that you have a tuplet that crosses beats in a measure. Such as a 2 1/2 note tuplet (3 1/4 notes) on beats 4 & 5 of the 5/4 measure. When you change the time signature to 4/4 it would have to span 2 measures, which is always a no no in real life as well as MuseScore. Attaching a score and letting us know which measures you want to change would help to clarify this.
edit: Local time signatures ARE tuplets in the code of MuseScore.
In reply to It sounds to me that you have by mike320
I would like to change the 2nd bar to 4/4 (it is in 5/4) and then copy that bar and insert it again so that it is repeated.
In reply to I would like to change the by anon78
this?
In reply to this? by Shoichi
I would like the 2nd bar to be copied once in 4/4 (the last beat of the bar deleted) and inserted before the current 2nd bar. But I can't even copy and paste what you've done, because I get the message "Please select the complete tuplet/tremolo and retry the command."
In reply to I would like the 2nd bar to by anon78
I think it's because following this section, the upper voice is in 15/8 and the lower voices remain in 5/4.
In reply to I think it's because by anon78
add some measures;
first set the time signature;
then copy and paste.
upper voice/lower voices: make sure you have followed the description as in the second link above
In reply to I would like to change the by anon78
I'm going back to my previous post since you didn't upload the score, but rather an image of it. The 3 measures you are showing are probably with a local time signature, not a global time signature. If this is the case, you MUST copy the entire measure (and probably the entire section) because MS counts the entire section with the local time signature as a tuplet (or multiple tuplets that have unknown to me start and stop points). I have never been able to copy a single measure from a section with a local time signature.
Here is how you deal with that situation.
When entering music in MuseScore, do not insert the local time signature until you have finished entering the score. You can then go back and enter the local time signature. There are 2 options for this, insert the original time signature in the measure where it will continue, then go back and insert the local time signature. Method 2 is to select the measures with the local time signature all at once and insert the time signature in the first measure. The next measure will automatically have the original time signature in it. The measures will still line up or you cannot use that local time signature. For example, you cannot have the entire score in 4/4 and put a random 5/4 measure in only the 1st oboe of an orchestra, the measures will never line up.
Firstly, it is always easier to help if you attach the score and not just an image but I am guessing that when you change one measure from 5/4 to 4/4, MuseScore is trying to change all the measures and some have tuplets in them that would be forced to cross a bar-line. Try this:
Insert two measures. RE-apply 5/4 (or whatever Time Signature you are in at that point) to the first measure after the ones that you inserted. Now apply 4/4 to the first of the inserted measures. Lastly, delete the third 4/4 measure that has just been created.