Writing the same note for two voices in one staff
An example:
I noticed that writing EQUAL NOTES in a staff for two trumpets actually sounds only one trumpet; that is, an instrument is 'missing'. In manually written compositions, "A 2" or "A due" is written.
I tried to write the same notes for 'voice 1' and 'voice 2', and indeed the velocity increased like two trumpets playing!
However, it is very tiring to keep repeating the note - voice by voice - for a long song, as in the case of two trombones, two flutes and so on.
I wonder if anyone has any tips on how to do it more easily. I tried Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, but it does not work.
Greetings from Brazil and thanks for any help.
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You wrote:
I tried to write the same notes for 'voice 1' and 'voice 2', and indeed the velocity increased like two trumpets playing!
Instead of using voices for 2 unison trumpets, you can copy the notes for the second trumpet onto a hidden staff.
If desired, and to get more creative with the playback, you can de-tune one trumpet (using the Inspector) so that it really sounds like a different trumpet, rather than one loud(er) trumpet with increased velocity.
Have a listen to the attachment.
2_Trumpets.mscz
Regards.
In reply to You wrote:… by Jm6stringer
Thank you. That's a better and more 'real sound' solution.
In reply to You wrote:… by Jm6stringer
Good result !
In reply to Good result ! by Raymond Wicquart
If I recall correctly, you previously mentioned the idea of de-tuning one of the unison instruments.
As the OP (original poster) wrote:
I tried to write the same notes for 'voice 1' and 'voice 2', and indeed the velocity increased like two trumpets playing!
Actually, the velocity increase sounds like one trumpet playing, only louder.
If you listen to the 2_Trumpets.mscz file (attached to my post above) with the MuseScore mixer open, you can mute/unmute one trumpet in real time, as the file plays. There is a noticeable difference in the sound.
Regards.
As for copy and paste to enter the same parts in a different voice, that can be done with little effort as well.
In reply to As for copy and paste to… by jeetee
Thank you, jeetee. Good solution.
But I need another hint: in the attachement, I have two bassoons playing in octaves, but THE SAME NOTES.
I entered the notes for each, but that's too cumbersome...
Is there a way for using copy an paste for that purpose? If I use Ctrl-down arrow, everythig goes down one octave...
Thank you very much and greetings from Brazil.
In reply to Thank you, jeetee. Good… by Sérgio Neville…
Basically the same steps as above, but afterwards lower/raise the octave of just one voice using the selection filter. So the full set of steps then become (extra steps are in bold):
1. Enter notes in voice 1
2. Open the selection filter (F6) uncheck "voice2"
3. Select the measures that needs to get duplicated and Copy
4. Go to Edit → Voices → Exchange voice 1-2
5. Click on the first rest in voice 1 of that range and Paste
6. Turn voice2 on again and voice 1 now off in the selection filter
7. Press Ctrl+↓
8. (Turn voice 1 on again in the selection filter)
In reply to Basically the same steps as… by jeetee
Great help! You save me many hours of work!
In reply to As for copy and paste to… by jeetee
Say, Jeetee, why the need to turn off Voice 2 before copying Voice 1?
Thanks.
In reply to Say, Jeetee, why the need to… by Anonymous
I seem to remember that was needed at some point in the past.
Turns out that if you are starting from an empty measure (in 2.1), the selection filter isn't required at all.
In reply to I seem to remember that was… by jeetee
Got it. Thanks.