Problem with horizontal beam offset

• Aug 25, 2018 - 00:15

Hello:
While transcribing a score, I had a problem with notes of different voices, which clashed.
I tried to solve it by moving the notes horizontally with the inspector. It can be done without problems by moving the head of the note and its stem (2 actions). However, I have not managed to move horizontally the beam that joins them.
Is there any way to move the beam horizontally? It looks like the beam does not react to the offset amount in the inspector…
By the way: How can I select simultaneously the note head and the stem so I don’t have to duplicate the same action for each of them?
Thank you very much.
Reflex
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Your attachment didn't work, could you try again?

My best guess is that you used the "Note" section of the Inspector (which affects literally just the notehead) rather than the "Chord" section (which takes into account stem, beam, etc).

Also be aware you can edit the stem lengths / beam angle - this would normally be preferably to moving things horizontally. Just double click a stem or beam and drag the handles. The only time you'd normally need to consider moving things horizontally is if there are three or more voices involved.

If you do manage to attach your score, we can tell better what the best approach would actually be.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Marc:
Thank you very much for your quick answer and sorry about my delay.
You were right in all your comments:
- I used the note part of the inspector.
- Using the chord part of the inspector solved the problem.
- It's a 3 voice part.

I attach now 2 jpg images of the problem I had in the Basso Continuo part of "Jubilemus
Exultemus" (F. Couperin). Should the attachment don’t work it doesn’t matter. The conflict has been already solved with your help.

Thank you again

Reflex (Barcelona, Spain)

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In reply to by Reflex

Yes, looks like you solved it nicely. I'd like to offer a bit more advice, though. While I can understand why you might choose to use three voices here - "conceptually" there are indeed three independent parts - for practical reasons it can be more beneficial to try to combine voices where possible to keep to just two. If you combine notes of the same rhythmic value into chords in the same voice in situations like this, then MuseScore's automatic layout algorithms will offset things for you - no need for any manual adjustments. So here, you could move the F into voice 1, move the eighths into voice 2, and things should look good right out of the box. Now, this may or may not be desirable in terms of keeping the independence of the lines clear, but it will make for a somewhere easier to read part, and definitely less work. Still, in the cases where you truly need three voices, you will indeed often need to do this sort of manual adjustment, so either way, it's good to have learned how.

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