Keyboard short-cut for "select next measure"

• Feb 6, 2020 - 04:17

Hello, again, friends.

Is there a keyboard shortcut in MS 2.3.2 for selecting the measure after the one already selected?

In other words, I am applying a series of pedal markings to individual measures, and it appears that I will mostly have to select one measure at a time and double-click the pedal marking in the palette, to apply it to that selected measure. For the sake of automation and future reference, is there a keyboard short-cut to continue on to the next measure, while the previous is still selected, without including the previously-selected measure?

Also, I found no explanation in the MS manual about the meaning of the individual pedal markings. As I am not profficient on the piano, I am not familiar with some of the lines. I have not find an online guide that explains each one of them, nor any part of the MuseScore manual, but just a mere depiction of what they are. I don't know the difference between this "Led._________/ " and this "_________/" for example. If you don't know of an online quick reference, don't mind. Wikipedia's article was very limited, and did not include all the pedal markings included in MuseScore, and neither did the Dolmetsch website.


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To select the next measure, first move the cursor to the next measure (eg, with Ctrl+Right) then use Ctrl+Shift+Right to select from there to the next measure. If you'r trying to creat a pedal change like __/__, you'll probably want to press Shift+Right after that to extend the selection to include the first note of the next measure, as that is where the change it normally notated.

The "Ped" (t's a "P", not an "L", just an old-style script) is just an style way of notating pedal. It doesn't mean anything different from the symbols without the marking.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

When I have an entire measure selected (in MS 2.3.2), pressing the right arrow, or CTRL+right arrow, takes me out of "measure select mode" and just selects the next note to the right.

I am already aware of using SHIFT+right arrow to "add selection," as this is a rather common shorcut in other programs for adding selections. I was just wondering if there was a way to select only one measure at a time, with the keyboard alone, perform an operation on it, and then use the keyboard to select the next measure without the preceding measure.

I ended up manually adding a whole-measure pedal sustain to every measure, with a release between every two measures, and then fine-tuned it in about seven cases.

So, your pedal explanation is that most of those markings mean the same, but that they are just alternative ways of notating the concept? That's a relief. So, then, the [_________] is the same as ___________/ for example?

Yeah, I was badly needing an alternative marking for "to Coda" that would include a small coda symbol beside the text, but I discovered from reading your posts that such a thing was not available in 2.3.2. I wish we could create our own symbols and assign them to existing operations.

Yes, I will eventually upgrade.

Thank you, Marc.

In reply to by ErikJon

Just as I said - first Ctrl+Right to select the first note of the next measure (yes, this loses the previous selection, which is just as you want - you no longer wish the previous measure selected), followed by Ctrl+Shift+Right. So just two simple steps to do what you want, if I ask understanding.

If that still isn’t clear or somehow doesn’t explain it better, please attach your score and describe the problem in more detail

In reply to by ErikJon

Yeah, I was badly needing an alternative marking for "to Coda" that would include a small coda symbol beside the text, but I discovered from reading your posts that such a thing was not available in 2.3.2. I wish we could create our own symbols and assign them to existing operations.

But the other way around works. The Jump markers/symbols have their function, but they are also plain text things; so you can double click them and add text/symbols to them, without them losing their function.

In reply to by jeetee

Thank you, Marc and JeeTee.

Marc, I had misunderstood your instructions. Now I get it. Selecting the note, so that the measure-select function works. Got it. Thank you.

Jee Tee, as for just adding a coda text symbol, I tried that using a font called "musical symbols" , but it did not wark. I copied the symbol from a word processor document, went to MuseScore, pasted the symbol to the end of the text "to coda" but the symbol displayed as an unrecognized character ("to coda ") so I clicked on the symbol and tried to set the text style for that one character alone, to "Musical Symbols," but apparently MuseScore does not permit assigning one font to part of the text, and another font to the rest, when they are within the same function, "to coda." I understand the principle that you describe, of changing the text to whatever I want, since it is only recognized as a function anyway, but I cannot get it to include a coda symbol, because this does not seem to be included with the standard text fonts. If you know how to do it, please let me know how.

In reply to by jeetee

Wow. I didn't know that the coda symbol was just text. Thanks.

Below is a sample of what I get with this nice work-around. If I insert the symbol beside the jump text, the symbol is very tiny, which is still better than no symbol at all, and if I type "coda" beside the coda itself, I get gigantic text. It's not standard sizing, but it is a very nice work-around in the meantime. Thank you. coda.jpg

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

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Wow! I've been using MuseScore for over one year now, and I never even NOTICED that there was a text toolbar at the bottom of my screen! I've been using the right-click "edit text style" window, which never allows adjustment of individual characters within a line of text.

So, then, yes, I can get it exactly as I wanted, after all.

Thanks again, Marc. Very kind of you to spare your time to point that out to me.

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In reply to by ErikJon

No problem! To be clear, the Inspector (the window at the right side of your screen, open it view the View menu if you previously closed it) is the normal way to set the overall properties for a text element as a whole. The right-click Style menu is for affecting all elements of that type. The text toolbar is for overriding specific characters within a specific text. So, different tools for different jobs.

Oh wait, I just remembered you're still using MuseScore 2. In that case, instead of the Inspector, it's the "Text Properties" dialog that you can use for a similar purpose (setting properties for a text element as a whole), if not nearly as conveniently.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Oh, I see. Well, I had noticed that right-clicking to access the Style menu ended up affecting all elements on the score of the same type, but I rarely ever used the Inspector for making changes other than note size, tempo visibility, or moving things up and down.

Thanks again!

actually now i use MS4 and you can just drag the pedal symbol to the first note of every measure and it will pedal the whole measure. Not that fast but definitely good.

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