Removing instrument names at beggining of staves / staffs as global setting

• Apr 28, 2011 - 18:06

At the moment, I'm typesetting some exercises for a single instrument. Consequently, I don't need the instrument name to display at the start of each stave (staff).

The only way to remove the instrument name at the moment is to Edit Staff /Part Properties and modify both the long and short instrument names. I must modify each staff (may have up to 20 on a page) for each separate exercise. This is tedious. In addition, if I do remove the long and short instrument names for the staff, MS still leaves a blank margin for the instrument name. It does not move the staff to the left.

I'd like to see...
1. An option, say in Style - Edit General Style, to suppress all instrument names at the beginning of the staff
2. A way to change the margin on the first system to move it left when there is no instrument name, or have MS automatically close the space when there is no instrument name.

Is there a workaround for the margin issue now?


Comments

1/ You could create template if it's always the same 20 instruments you are scoring for.

2/ There should not be a margin if you deleted each and every instrument name. So maybe you missed one and it contains spaces. If you want attach your piece or a small excerpt for someone to find out which one is causing the margin.

What I would love to see, it's a way to select all instrument names in the score and be able to press Del instead of another style. But it's far from easy since instrument names are generated at the beginning of the systems.

In reply to by [DELETED] 5

I delete *all* the instrument names on all the individual staves. And, yes, the left margins on all the staves shifted left as you said they would. It's an all or nothing shifting of of the left margin.

I haven't tried the template idea yet. However, the multiple selection and deletion of instrument names is a reasonable way to go as well.

I'm a little confused as to what you mean about having 20 staves on a page. If this is an exercise for a single instrument, then you might have 20 systems per page, but each system would contain only a single staff. If there there is only instrument, then there is only one instrument name to delete (well, long and short versions).

And, as noted, after you've done this once, save it as a template and you never have to do it again. And I too find the margins *do* disappear after deleting the name. But if you truly are creating 20 different staves even though there is only one instrument - so you have one system of 20 staves rather than 20 systems of one staff each, then indeed, the margin wouldn't close until the last staff is deleted.

I *do* like the idea of a global setting to control display of instrument names, since this is a pretty common for people to run into. Elsewhere, I suggested the new score wizard could be clever and only create instrument names for scores consisting of more than one instrument. If this option were added, then it could create the instrument name in all cases, but only set the option to display the names for scores of more than one instrument. And of course, that would just be default you could still override it in the style settings.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

He means like the attached sheet. Here there are 12 different staves. Each one is for the trombone because each one represents a major scale (with no key signature). Major Scales - No Key Signature - Flats.mscz

And here's the pdf in case someone is looking for trombone scales with no key signature. Major Scales - No Key Signature - Flats.pdf

In reply to by iateadonut

Umm why do all the "sharp" keys have flats instead of sharps?

ie B,E,A,D,G majors?

You have left out F# major.

It would also make more sense to lay out the worksheet in Cycle of 5ths order with C major in the middle and the sharp keys ascending to the top and the flat keys descending to the bottom. In that way it can also be used to learn the number of sharps/flats in the key signatures, and their relationships

In reply to by iateadonut

What I don't understand is why you'd go out of your way to create this as a single system of 12 staves. Wouldn't it be infinitely more logical to have it be 12 systems of a single staff each? After all, it's not like you actually want 12 trombones playing scales at the same time, each in a different key. Logically, the score is for a single teombone who would be lpaying the scales one at a time. Not necessarily all n a row, of course - he might be skippng around or whatever, or just using it for study. But conceptually, this is a score for a single trombone, not a dcore for 12 trombones. I can't think of a single reaason why you'd deliberately lie and call it a score for 12 trombones each paying a different scale at the same time, but that seems to be what you've done here. It doesn't make sense, and it makes it harder as well. If it were 12 systems of one staff each as it should be, then there would only be a single staff name to delete.

In reply to by iateadonut

It's not clear what in particular you don't know how to do, or how much MuseScore experience you have overall. The above is a good summary, but I'd observe that really., it's not significantly different from how you'd create *any* score of multiple lines. If you are creating a song for trombone that is 60 measures long - which is what you are doing here, but it could be *any* 60-measure song, not just a 60-measure song that happens to consist of 12 5-measure scales - you choose trombone as your one and only instrument in the "new score" wizard, select 60 as the number of measures when it asks for that, and then start entering your notes. That way, when you press "Play" (space bar), it plays the song (or the scales) one measure at a time, in order, like a single trombone player would paly it. Right now, if you press play, you'll hear a very interesting cacophony :-)

The details then of how to get the line breaks where you want them so the 60 measures come out as 12 lines of 5 measure each rather than, say, 10 lines of 6 measures each, or an irregular number of measures per line (which is most likely) is then a question of setting sizes and stretch so that you have at least as many measures per line as you like, then adding manual line breaks. Everything about this process is not unique to putting together scale worksheets - it's how *all* music is done. A piece of music for one instrument that is 60 measures long should be set up with one instrument, 60 measures, not 12 instruments, 5 measures.

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