Independent note duration
Hello!
I have written in general discussion //musescore.org/en/node/108461
and I was answered that it is impossible....
Duplicate message:
Is it possible to make when change note duration next note doesn't disappear?
I will explain:
When bar 4/4 contain 4 quarter notes. And, for exampe, I change second note from quarter to dotted quarter, third quarter disappeared...
Is it possible to change note duration without changing next note? For example like in guitar pro?
Comments
As explained there this is not possible (if you are lenghtening a note), as MuseScore doesn't have an 'insert' mode
What do you expect such an 'insert' mode to do?
- shorten the next note
or
- move the next note keping its duration
if the latter, where to stop moving,
- just that note, so it 'eats' duration from the next
or
- to the end of the measure (and what to do if it would cross over to the next measure?)
or
- to the end of the score (and what to do with the last note(s), append new measure or cut?)
As you may see now, this is much more complicated as it seems at first glance
In reply to As explained there this is by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks, of course it's all way to solve the problem. But with that function it will be more comfortable.
What is the problem to add this future? what prevents to add her?
I don't know what is the "insert" mode but why it is impossible to add?
In reply to Thanks, of course it's all by Sun_Lion
If you read my response above, you will see why it is difficult, and what decisions need to be made.
With using copy and paste for this, MuseScore leaves you all the freedom to make your decision on the spot and differently every single time rather than some fixed behavior that will be wrong more often than it is right.
In reply to If you read my response by Jojo-Schmitz
sorry ,I've understand. It's my english....
But why in guitar pro it work perfectly?
In reply to sorry ,I've understand. It's by Sun_Lion
I don't know guitar pro, how are they answering the questions I stated? How exactly does it behave? How do they allow for giving different answers to these question on demand, i.e. tweak the behavoir?
In reply to I don't know guitar pro, how by Jojo-Schmitz
Unfortunately I've just started learn programming. But now I looked at guitar pro with different angle =). If I right understood it has overflow bar. Guitar pro have counter of beat, when bar overflowed it become longer (bar highlight as red). but it never deleted notes without user...
In reply to Unfortunately I've just by Sun_Lion
So when e.g. changing a quarter to a dotted quarter in a 4/4 measure they change it to 9/8, right? I think Capella does something like this too. MuseScore though insists that a 4/4 measure is full as soon as 4 quarters have been entered, unless you explicitly change the actual duration of that particular measure.
In reply to Unfortunately I've just by Sun_Lion
Sicne you almost never want a 9/8 bar in a 4/4 piece, I would claim that it did not work perfectly at all - it just created more work that you need to clean up later. In fact, there is no "perfect" solution - it's virtually always going to require multiple steps to do the job, since only you know how you want the other notes to move around. At some point, either some other note or rest has to be shortened or deleted, or else some measure has too many beats. A program can guess, but it's going to be wrong a lot, and you'll need to fix the error. So I guess Guitar Pro guesses you want a 9/8 bar, which is probably the worst possible guess since it is almost never correct. MuseScore guesses you want to not shift anything later in time, which is probably right half the time. So to me, that/s better.
At some point, I'd definitely like to see us add an "insert mode" that shifted some notes later in time, but it should definitely make a more reasonbable guess than leaving you with a 9/8 bar you will certainly have to correct. I'd probably vote for pushing all notes to the end of the measure to the right and shortening the last to fit. Or maybe some way of first selecting the notes you wish to move, then doing the insert, and it would move the selected notes to the right and steal space from whatever the next note/rest was.