Stem/beam conflict
See attached:
1. Write Voice one line.
2. Add rest and 1/8 in Voice 2. Voice 1 beam reverses position, 1 + 2 appear as separate voices.
3. Select voice 1 sixteenth beam and press "x".
Hoped for result: The conflict between the beam and the stem would be respoved automatically, stem flag would disappear and stem would adjust to beam.
At this point I would like to see
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Sorry if I say heresy, select the 1/8 Voice 2;
Click the icon of Voice 1 (blue).
Is it the (not automatically) desired result?
In reply to Sorry if I say heresy, select by Shoichi
Perhaps I don't understand but when I follow your instructions, nothing happens.
Simply selecting another voice doesn't generally do anything other than prepare to do something.
Regards,
In reply to Perhaps I don't understand by xavierjazz
I am aware that the above does not answer your question, mine is just another way to enter notes. I think that the automatism could possibly have undesirable effects in other situations.
(I first removed the tie)
In reply to Perhaps I don't understand by xavierjazz
If you are *not* in note input mode, selecting a note then pressing a voice button will attempt to move the note into the selected voice. This feature is new with MuseScore 2, but it will fail if there is any sort of complication though, and in this case, the tie is the complication. If you temporarily remove the tie, then select the low A, then send it to voice 1 in this manner, it works. You can then re-add the tie.
But if that's the result you want, again, easier to just not use multiple voices in that first measure at all. Enter the two measures without the tie betweens the lower A's, then add the tie.
In reply to Sorry if I say heresy, select by Shoichi
If that's the desired result, then indeed, that's the way to do it. The way to make two notes look like they are in the same voice is to actually *enter* them into the same voice. If the goal is for them for be in separate voices, they should actually look distinct, regardless of stem direction.
I guess the fact that they are tied to notes that have to be in different voices makes it seem like you might need the notes at the start of the tie to also be in different vocies, but this is not the case. You can tie notes from vocie 1 to voice 2, thus eliminating the need for multiple voices at all in the first measure.
I'm not quite understanding what you are saying. The description refers to a sixteenth beam but I don't see any sixteenths in the example. Is that maybe the wrong sample score?
I'm guessing you want voice 2 notes that happen to have stems in the same direction as voice 1 notes to somehow "merge" with together, but this would make writing more than two voices next to impossible, if I'm understanding you correctly. It's normally important each voice remain distinct so you can have up to four visually independent voices. Ideally, we should actually offset one note when you have notes in different vocies at the same time with the same stem direction - they should't overlap *at all*. But because it is easier to do this offset manually than it is to remove it manually if you have some unusual special situation where you *don't* want the notes visually distinct, and because it is difficult to automatically sort out all the special cases that can occur, we opted for now to allow the notes to overlap.
In reply to I'm not quite understanding by Marc Sabatella
I changed the earlier reference to 1/8 but had initially written 1/16.
Yes, that's what I meant.
You have cleared up a question I didn't even know I had. :)
Thanks.
In reply to I'm not quite understanding by Marc Sabatella
With a bit more thought, I am still confused.
Attached is a slightly longer segment.
I require the 2 voice to notate the push into the 4th bar. I would would like that push chord to match the look of the other chords.
Or should it be the way it is here?
In reply to With a bit more thought, I am by xavierjazz
The task that I had prepared a little while ago?
In reply to The task that I had prepared by Shoichi
I believe you are missing an aspect of this and that is the push into the last bar. I need 2 voices because I need to have voice 2 tied into the next bar for the syncopation.
Or else I'm still missing something. :)
In reply to I believe you are missing an by xavierjazz
You can safely add the tie, it seems to me (but I'm not an expert)
Thank you both. I now understand that I needed to remove the tie and then the steps work.
Now that interesting. I applied the fix to the note and the rest in Voice 1 moved into place.
See: https://musescore.org/en/node/109356
In reply to Now that interesting. I by xavierjazz
kill two birds with one stone? ;-)
Best regards.