Tie Over to Second Ending

• May 20, 2016 - 11:47

I have a note at the end of a bar before 1st and 2nd ending of the first part of my song, which ties over the start of both endings. I cant tie over to the start of the second ending.

Also, i use a D. S. Al FINE at end of the final measure to go back to $ Sign at the middle of the song where chorus is.

The playback did not stop playing at FINE when repeating from $ sign. Instead it continued playing until it reached the end of the final measure. Why?

Also, i have a DC in second part of my song. When it went back to the beginning of the song, it only played the second ending of the first part.
Why?

Anyone can advise? Musescore is really a challenging program to use. No wonder it comes free.


Comments

As to your first problem: Put in a grace note (on the same pitch) before the tied note in the second ending, then make the tie between the grace note and the tied note. Select the grace note and make it not sound in the inspector, also make it invisible (select and type "v")--be careful, the stem and the head are separate entities, make sure you make them both invisible. I agree that this is a somewhat clumsy work around but it does the job.

Your second problem: You have to read the handbook with great care, details matter here. However if you get them right things will work as they should. I would not blame musescore on this, the prima/second volta thing is complicated all by itself with no input from programmers. In printed music the signs count on people's common sense and things seem straightforward, but alas, computers lack any common sense.

Your third problem--repeats omitted in da capo sections--is one I am having myself just now and I am not sure if there is a solution (to me playback is mainly to check for typos, so if the repeats don't work as they ought I am not worried). The reason is that it is standard practice (in probably more than 999 out of 1000 cases) to skip repeats while playing a section da capo. However the odd exception exists (one is even by Beethoven: string quartet op 59/2 third movement--I have never heard those da capo repeats played in performance but the instructions are clearly there in the music) and maybe someone can help.

And about your final sentence: I confidently predict that if you keep using Musescore for just a while you will yourself disagree with it. Anyhow I generally disagree with people who say "if it's free it's worthless" and I very strongly disagree with it when it comes to Musescore. You'll see how this forum gets you help quickly and efficiently.

In reply to by azumbrunn

Sorry, how do u silence the grace and tied note? Ctrl V is to make the grace note invisible too?

Is it necessary to make the tied note in second ending invisible too? I presume silencing the grace note will not make the subsequent tied note silent too, thereby wrongly shortening the duration of the entire note (which comes before the first ending).

I have read the handbook on repeat and DS AL Fine. But I did not mention in great detail.

Are u saying that the playback might not work properly because of its design? If so, i will just ignore it.

In reply to by leslielee

Are u saying that the playback might not work properly because of its design?

I am saying no such thing. All I am saying is that I don't know if the system covers the case where you need the repeats observed in da capo as well as the first time round.

If your tied grace note silences the tied note along with the grace note use a slur. You will hardly see the difference. If you don't like "v" you can make things invisible in the inspector as well.

Silencing a note (any, not just grace notes): Select the note, call up inspector (ctrl I on Mac) and uncheck the box "play" towards the bottom of the inspector window. BTW the box "visible" is at the very top; uncheck it and the note will invisible.

And as already suggested: If you post your score--or the relevant section of it--you will get better help.

When it comes to playback - most especially with repeats and jumps - best practice is to attach your score or a made-up 'test score' exhibiting the issue(s).

Be advised...
For any score, based on all the repeat instructions you enter, MuseScore's playback engine creates it's own 'roadmap' to navigate through the composition. For this reason, an inadvertent ommission of, let's say, a start (or end) repeat could create a playback issue elsewhere in the score - not necessarily at the exact spot where the omission exists.

Regards, and welcome aboard.

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