expanding staves horizontally for BIG notes?

• Aug 14, 2012 - 15:36

It's probably something I can do with Style/Edit General Style/Page, but I can't figure out how...
I want to make the staves expand horizontally so the notes come out bigger as well.
There's already 11 lines on the page, but room between them enough to do this.


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If you want the notes to come out bigger, then you need to extend sthe staves *vertically*, not horizontally. A note is the same size no matter how *long* the staff is; it gets bigger only if the staff gets *taller*.

The way to change the staff height - and with it, the note size - is Layout->Page Settings->Space. The figure here is the actual size of the space between staff lines.

Note that if you do this, most other sizes in MuseScore will scale with it, so you won't be able to fit 11 systems on the page any more - you'll have to go back to the Style setting and reduce the distance between the staves and/or systems. Notice that those distances are all given in units of "sp" - literally that's the "space" setting you made in the Page Settings dialog.

So with a Space setting of 1.5mm in the Page Settings dialog, a System Distance of 6sp translates to 9mm. If you increase the Space setting to 2mm, now 6sp translated to 12mm. You'd have to reduce the System Distance to 4.5sp to get back to 9mm. But you'll probably find that's too close together - there's a reason these settings are designed to automatically scale!

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

of course, vertical; sorry - brain rewired ;-)

I have been using Layout->Page Settings->Space a lot on all sheets, since I prefer having all on one page when possible.
Also here, despite the 11 lines, I still want to keep it on one page.

There's plenty of room between the staves here, to enlarge staves and notes, but going to Edit General Style->Page it still isn't quite clear how to get it done.
"Great Stave Distance" vs "Stave Distance"?
I don't see anything happening font size wise when changing figures in either of them.

I suppose somehow the trick is in the combination of:
Layout->Page Settings->Space & Edit General Style->Page like you say.
I'll experiment some more then. Thanks for your help again :-)

In reply to by catch22

Posting a score would help, but see Layout and formatting in the Handbook. Basically, System Distance is the distance between *systems* (groups of related staves, as in a score for several instruments). Staff Distance is the distance between *staves* within a system. And in order to see the full effects your settings, you should consider temporarily disabling the automaticl page fill by setting the Threshold to 100%.

Fonts are indeed not always handled correctly by the scaling in 1.X. That's fixed in 2.0.

In reply to by catch22

Looks like there is one one instrument, so it's system distance you want to reduce after upping the space. But as I said, I think you will find the result disappointing if you really want to try to fit that much music on a single page. By the time you reduce system distance enough to fit it all, your chords start getting very close to the system above. Of course, your chords are pretty high, to accomodate the ledger lines, I guess. You might want to lower the overall height and just raise those few, or move them to the side, or use an 8va to avoid the ledger lines.

Realistically, 11 staves on a page is a lot; there's no way to to do that without compromises.

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