Noten verändern sich nach dem Schließen
Erstmal tausend Dank für dieses Superprogramm und die hervorragend geführten Foren! Ich habe eine Frage, die wahrscheinlich schon diskutiert worden ist, aber mit allen Stichworten, die mir einfallen, finde ich leider keine Beiträge/Hinweise dazu: Es passiert bei mir immer mal wieder (aber leider völlig unvorhersehbar), dass einzelne Noten beim Wiederöffnen einer Partitur in der Höhe "verrutscht" sind: aus einem a ist ein h geworden oder aus einem c" ein e''. Das war schon in früheren musescore-Versionen so (0.93 war, glaube ich, meine erste) und jetzt bei 1.2 immer noch. Ich arbeite mit Windows XP und habe keine der als inkompatibel beschriebenen Programme oder Treiber auf dem Computer. Kann mir bitte jemand einen Hinweis dazu geben?
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Hallo ahschulz,
Can you please post an example of a score where the pitch of a note has slipped after you close the program?
Danke,
Fifist
Sally
In reply to ein Beispiel bitte? by Fifist
Hello, Sally. Attached is an example (hope it is; this is my first try on posting). It is a section from a mass which I copied for our choir into a more readable version. On the first page, second voice, single note in measure 14, I found the A3 to have moved to B3 when I came back to the score after a couple of days. I am sure it wasn't me, because I had actually copied the phrases from the first voice and moved the notes down a third.
[BTW: Is there a way to post such queries in the German section/forums of musescore? The only button I found there led me straight into the English section.]
Thank you for your help!
Anne
In reply to Beispiel by ahschulz
http://musescore.org/de/forum is where the German forums are.
Seems you attached a backup file (filename starts with a "." and ends with a ",", see http://musescore.org/en/handbook/file-format)
In reply to http://musescore.org/de/forum by Jojo-Schmitz
Ja, stimmt, es war die Backup-Kopie (weil ich die Datei schon wieder zurückgeändert habe). Ich hänge es nochmal unter neuem Namen und ohne Punkt und Komma an.
Die deutsche Foren-Seite habe ich schon gefunden, nur keine Möglichkeit, um dort einen neuen Thread zu starten. Unter "Kontaktieren" fand ich, dass man Fragen und Bugs nicht dort, sondern unter "Issues" loswerden kann, und über den "Issues"-Reiter (auf der "Suchen"-Seite) war ich dann im englischen Teil...
In reply to Beispiel by ahschulz
http://musescore.org/de/node/add/forum/52
In reply to Beispiel by ahschulz
Hmm, I can't see the problem.
But how did you manage to start the piece without having a time signature (in the 1st measure)?
That 2/2 twice at the end of the lines ist pretty strange too.
I wonder whether this causes some corruption to the score?
Not quite sure why you're hiding the 2/2 time signatures at the beginning of lines, but not the courtesy ones at the end nor any of the 6/8 time signatures?
Also some of the lyrics have been enetered as staff-text rather then lyrics, did you know that you can have spaces in Lyrics (entered with Ctrsl-Space)? After that you might need to to move the notes to the left, to keep your layout (lyrics are centered under their note). Makes the spacers on page 2 no longer needed.
Adding line breaks and you don't need any stretch anymore.
In reply to Hmm, I can't see the by Jojo-Schmitz
Hi Anne -
I searched the English forums to see if I could find anything similar. The only thing I found that was even vaguely similar was from a year and half ago (MS v1.0?) and had to do with midi files ("Changing time signature changes note pitch", node 10892). Since there was no real resolution to that issue, it's one thing to keep an eye on, since you do change the time signature pretty often in your music.
You also said you had copied the notes from one voice to another and moved them down. Make sure that you aren't opening a backup copy that was automatically generated when the notes were in the process of being moved.
It would be most helpful to have a description of the steps needed to reliably reproduce the problem. I know that's difficult to do in this case, but if you can do that, the developers will have an easier time of fixing the issue.
Fifist (Schwegler)
Sally
In reply to Hi Anne - I searched the by Fifist
That's interesting! After all, I did change the time signature, and this note was the one after a change. I don't think I changed the meter in the other instances where I felt that a note had changed its pitch, but I can't really tell, because it only happened once in a couple of months and I never put down a notice to refer to later.
Re describing the steps: of course, I know you cannot look into an error if you cannot reproduce it. But it is almost impossible to remember the last steps when you work back and forth on a score, save and close it, and find it changed when you come back maybe several days later. I basically posted my query because I was sure someone else must have encountered this issue before.
I also did not move this particular note (only the subsequent notes), because it was the same A3 in all three voices. That's why I said I am sure in this case it was not my fault, I did not enter a wrong note and it can't be an "incompletely moved" note in a backup file.
Thank you for your help!
Anne
In reply to Hmm, I can't see the by Jojo-Schmitz
No, I didn't know about the Ctrl-Space option - thanks very much for pointing that out!
The piece I showed you is a bit uncommon in terms of meters, but it only contains the last "slipped pitch" which I encountered with musescore and it is the only one I still have with the error in place. However, the phenomenon occurred with straightforward meters as well. (About 4 or 5 times within, say, 50 pages of music over 2 years - that's why I was sure someone must have commented on that before.)
Re time signatures: This version is a work in progress, hence still contains some inconsistencies. I had tried to create the initial measures for each line (which are actually a free choral speech and don't need any meter) by switching between 2/2 for the sprechgesang and 6/8 for the music, but finally did it by simply changing the effektive Taktlänge for each of these measures while keeping the 6/8 meter for the whole piece. The double 2/2 at the end of the lines is actually another thing musescore did to my score between saving/closing the file one night and reopening it the next morning. I hid them first, but then found that the second set could simply be deleted without affecting anything else.
Thanks again for your help!
Anne